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The “Controversy” Game #1: Do you have an opinion that is a bit out there?
First off, I wanted to say a quick thanks again to Lemony for her idea on how to run this and for the first topic!
Okay, so what we’re going to do is this: Every few days introduce a new topic and see if people have any controversial opinions on the matter. We’ll be playing a Devil’s Advocate of sorts. Here are a few examples: maybe someone actually liked Andy and Amanda or thought Rose was a bad mother. This may become a discussion topic depending on how active it is. The biggest thing is to remember the nature of the game: controversy. As a result, it makes sense not to just post like “I don’t have any controversial opinion on this.” We’ll know if the topic isn’t hot by how little posts it may get. Obviously some topics will create more controversy than others. Finally, I’m always up for input so be sure to give yours if this thread is struggling, needs to be spiced up, changed, etc. Have fun! Do you have any controversial opinions about... 1. Ephram? (Dec. 17 - Dec. 20) 2. Harold? (Dec. 21 - Dec. 26 ) 3. Amy? (Dec. 27 - ) __________________
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I'll start...
Looking back, Ephram was actually pretty unlikeable. The writers did a somewhat good job of justifying some of his actions but if you really look at it: he fought with his dad for years and undoubtedly took years off of his life, treated his younger sister pretty lousy, was never the greatest friend to Bright, treated his soulmate like trash when they broke up and left Bright and Amy during a time in need when Rose had cancer. Julia was always shown to be a good mother to her children but you would think that she would have instilled better manners in her son. Like I said, some of the stuff (such as Julia's untimely death) justified some of Ephram's behavior, but I'm not sure the writers did enough to give him consequences for his actions - especially those at the end of season three. __________________
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As for your opinion about Ephram, I agree with some of it and disagree with other parts. I've mentioned before that Ephram in season 3 and 4 seemed very unlikable to me, and he ended up being one of my least favorite characters in those seasons. Quote:
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AMY: Phone's been ringing non-stop since the paper came out. There are a bunch more messages on the machine. HAROLD: Amy? Are these all of them? AMY: Sorry Dad, he didn't call. HAROLD: I don't know what you mean. |
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Awesome job, Dolfan! Great idea, I like the title a lot and I can't wait to dive in.
I'm out in 15, so that's all I got for now, but I had to come by once I saw it. __________________
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I never found Ephram hot. I never found him ugly but I didn't find him attractive. I guess he's not my type! I don't always necessarily like the perfect featured guy (even if maybe that is what I find pretty easy on the eyes the most, see David Tennant... I do like the pretty boy look for a guy: which Ephram is NOT LOL) but Ephram's features were a bit too... unattractive for me. And now I am leaving in hopes of not getting punched or something. Last edited by jediwands; 12-17-2011 at 03:38 PM |
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I agree with both of you! I thought Ephram was decent-looking in season 1 and 2 (there were times when he could pass as cute and more times that he could look plain unattractive too), but I definitely didn't find him hot. I'm kind of surprised to hear that most people find him "smokin' hot". I never knew that.
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Yes, back in the day on this board when I was mod, I can tell you that endless people found him drool-worthy hot. Oh yes. |
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About his looks, well, that's never been my focus, heh, but I think you're spot on, Betty. Quote:
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I agree with a few of your assessments that Ephram was selfish. The writers did a good job in season four of getting away from that in his storyline with Kyle. I just wish they did a better job of giving him repercussions for the way he acted throughout the series. __________________
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Hm, I think Ephram was still pretty selfish and unlikable in season 4.
The fact that he demanded that Reid stop dating Amy was absolutely ridiculous, immature, and obviously completely selfish. Even if he thought that he and Amy were soulmates or whatever, there is no justification for what he did in that situation. He couldn't have known what Reid and Amy might have had together, and he knew good and well that his actions would upset Amy a great deal, having her believe that Reid just suddenly didn't want to see her anymore. It was just so childish and stupid, and he never really made up for it either. And later, Ephram's nosiness into Kyle's personal life, his interference with Kyle and the girls/dance, and his strong desire to prove that he's not gay...Again, immature and unlikable. Sure, he said that he didn't want Kyle to be gay because he didn't want that extra social burden on Kyle, but he still came across as juvenile, meddlesome, and bordering on homophobic. I feel there were other instances too. Those two stood out the most to me, but I'll bring the others up here if I can recall them. __________________
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I still stand by what I said above that many people found Ephram very physically attractive as well. Personality was one of his many charming aspects but MANY also found him very physically attractive. You are in the majority! I am in the minority! |
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