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Guardian Angels #148 ~ Because despite the past two years, they still love each other



"Seven years ago I was recruited to have sex with Vaughn, who I was told could screw like no other. I was trained as a dominatrix, warned not to be gentle with him. I thought I was having pretty good sex, until Vaughn screwed me, and then he did it again, and again, and again, and again, and then I pass out. That's when I learned the truth: That the secret to having truly great sex was Michael Vaughn. Now I'm a sex fiend, gettin' it on with Vaughn as often as possible, where my allies are these pills that I take every morning. They even come in these cute little compact things now: Ortho Tri-Cyclen."



Spy!Lurvin' List

- Syd/Vaughn's bedroom
- The Warehouse
- In Quarantine
- Vaughn's Bathroom
- In a Bubble Bath
- In the Shower
- The Vatican
- France Outside of Dr Frankestein's Lab
- The Madagascar Woods
- Sloane's Desk
- Devlin's, Kendall's, and Haladki's desks pushed together to make the king sized desk in the middle of the CIA main room
- Alice's Bed
- Francie's Restaurant
- In an Elevator
- Vaughn's trunk
- Blood Mobile
- Train Station
- Will's Bed
- Vaughn's Office
- The Roof
- The Back of an Airplane
- SpyMommy's Cell
- Parking Garage
- CIA's Audio/Visual room
- Closet
- Up Against the Chain-Link Fence
- Up Against a Warehouse Wall
- On an Air Mattress in the middle of the Warehouse
- Vaughn's car
- The Observatory
- The Pier
- In the Ferris-Wheel
- On a Pool Table
- On a Bar
- Marshall's Inflatable Couch
- Barnett's Office
- CIA Ops Center
- In the Park
- SD-6 basement
- HongKong safe house



"Have I told you about the tension of opposites?" he says.
The tension of opposites?
"Life is a series of pulls back and forth. You want to do one thing, but you are bound to do something else. Something hurts you, yet you know it shouldn't. You take certain things for granted, even when you know you should never take anything for granted.
"A tension of opposites, like a pull on a rubber band. And most of us live somewhere in the middle."
Sounds like a wrestling match, I say.
"A wrestling match." He laughs. "Yes, you could describe life that way."
So which side wins, I ask?
He smiles at me, the crinkled eyes, the crooked teeth.
"Love wins. Love always wins."


Reasons

Because he recruits her as a double agent (1.1)

Because even Weiss can see Vaughn cares for Sydney (1.2)

Vaughn nervously sitting at desk, figeting with a coin. Sydney is on a mission.
Weiss: Any word from her yet?
V: No, I don’t expect to hear anything from her till she gets back.
W: Your girlfriends’ name is Alice.
V: Will you shut up.
W: I’m just checking.
V: Get out of my office.

Because Syndey demands Vaughn become her handler again. (1.3)

Lambert: Who the hell do you think you're talking to?
Sydney: I know exactly who I'm talking to. Tell Devlin if Agent Vaughn isn't on the either end of this earpiece when I turn it on, the C.I.A. gets nothing.

Because Vaughn is her guardian angel… (1.3)

Sydney: Who am I talking to?
Vaughn: Your invisible friend.
S: Good. Where are you?
V: Satellite relay station back in LA, watching you from a 200-mile orbit.
S: (Looking at the sky) My guardian angel.


Because of the car wash scene (1.7)

At car wash
S: You sure you’re okay?
V: Yeah. I just –
S: Did you have a fight with your wife?
V: My what?
S: Your wife
V: What wife? I have no wife.
S: No? There was a picture in your office – you and that woman. I thought you were married.
V: She and I are not remotely – you thought I was married this whole time?
S: I guess so. What’s the big deal?
V: Nothing.

V: Why’d you ask me if I’d had a fight with my girlfriend?
S: I don’t know. Did you?
V: Huge.
S: (grins)

Because Sydney has Vaughn’s number. (1.4)

VAUGHN: (To Sydney) Okay, listen to me. There's something you need to know. When you first walked into my office with that stupid Bozo hair, I thought you were crazy. I thought you might actually be a crazy person. But I watched you, and I read your statement, and I've seen... I've seen how you think, I've seen how you work, I've seen how you are in this job. In this job, you see darkness. You see the worst in people and though the jobs are different and the missions change, and the enemies have a thousand names, the one crucial thing, the one real responsibility you have is to not let your rage, and your resentment, and your disgust, darken you. When you're at your absolute lowest, at your most depressed, just remember that you can always... you know. You got my number.

Because even Jack sees the tensions between them 1.07

Vaughn: Sydney's life is worth the risk!
Jack: Not to Sydney! Taking them down is what gets her up in the morning. Or... did you think it was those meetings she has with you?

Because he bought her a Christmas present 1.10

Vaughn: (embarrassed) I don't know. I was in this store, you know, um... this little antique place.
Sydney: (big smile) What were you doing in an antique store?
Vaughn: I don't know. (laughs nervously) Whatever. Um, look, if you don't like it just... don't tell me.

Because Vaughn wants to go to a hockey game with her 1.14

Vaughn: Yeah. Last week, when you talked about quitting SD-6--
Sydney: I was being naive.
Vaughn: No, but, um, what you said about wanting to go to a hockey game... wanting me to be part of your life... I, uh, I think I wasn't clear about something. (pause) That it would be nice to be in public with you, to actually get to look at you. Grab a pizza or go to a hockey game. I-I just... I wasn't clear that I would really like that, too.

Because Vaughn wants to break into the Vatican with her 1.16

Sydney: We'd have to leave tonight. You in?
Vaughn: (shy smile) Yeah. I'll break into the Vatican with you.

Because he belives in her … and he’ll throw her in his turnk 1.17

Sydney: You didn't think about it. Not once. The possibility that Rambaldi could be right about me.
Vaughn: No. I didn't.
Sydney: Why not?
Vaughn: Because I believe in you. Do you think I'd just throw anyone in my trunk?

Because Vaughn is about a mile across “that” line. 1.21

Weiss: I don't want your thanks. I want it to stop.
Vaughn: Look, Sydney's my responsibility . . .
Weiss: Mike, I'm not going to trivialize your relationship with her by calling it a crush . .
Vaughn: A crush?
Weiss: But whatever it is, it's starting to affect me and if that sounds selfish to you, I was hoping to retire fully vested. I know you genuinely care for her. I do, too. But there is a line that we have been sworn not to cross. We're about a mile past that.
Vaughn: I don't know how to be Sydney's handler without making it personal.
Weiss: Figure out a way.

Because he knows all her favorite spots and tracks her down 1.22

Sydney: Hi. How did you find me?
Vaughn: You told me a couple of months ago that when you feel the need to disappear, you go to the observatory. But the observatory was closed. And then I remembered you said the pier calms you down. But you weren't there. And you weren't at the bluffs and the palisades, either.
Sydney: You didn't really go to all those places.
Vaughn: Yeah, I did. And then I remembered you liked the train station, too. Normal people going to their normal jobs.
Sydney: I can't believe you remember that.

Because his watched stopped the day they met 2.8

Vaughn: This watch belonged to my father. It's broken now, but it used to keep perfect time. And when he gave it to me, he said, "You could set your heart by this watch." It stopped October 1st: the day we met. (Sydney is about to respond when her pager goes off, then Vaughn's goes off as well. They look to see who it is.) Kendall.
Sydney: Me too.

Because he gives her tickets to play mini golf so that he can watch her and Will and Francie play (2.9)
SYDNEY: Hi.
VAUGHN: Hey.
SYDNEY: Any word on the flower?
VAUGHN: Preliminary analysis indicates that it's anywhere from four to six hundred years old. (Syd gives him a look)
VAUGHN: Like I said, preliminary.
(He smiles at her and gives her something.)
SYDNEY: What's this?
(She looks at the mini golf tickets he's given her. Great smile.)
Sydney, Will and Francie all play mini golf together. Sydney's jogging around, having fun. Vaughn watches from nearby, smiling. Sydney laughs and takes another shot. Vaughn leaves.

Because Syd admits to Francie that she has a crush on a guy at work.(2.11)

(At Francie's restaurant, Syd and Fracie stitting there, drinking a cup of coffee and talking)
FRANCIE: What?
SYDNEY: I have a crush on a guy from work.
FRANCIE: Really? Who is he?
SYDNEY: Someone in my department. We've worked together for about a year now.
FRANCIE: You're kidding me. What's his name?
SYDNEY: Michael. And he's... I don't know how to describe him. He's smart... and he's funny. He's so cute.
FRANCIE: Hot cute, not goofy cute?
SYDNEY: Hot cute.

Because they actually go to dinner together (2.12)

Vaughn: The nearest Alliance cell is in Zurich. The CIA tracks SD-6 security section. There haven't been any signals, no movement.
Sydney: You're serious.
Vaughn: We've been to restaurants and sat near each other. We've met in parks and convenience stores, and all of them in LA where we are much more likely to be seen. Look, two things -- one, I think it's not that great a risk and two, I am hungry. I'm starving. I mean, we're going to be together anyway, why can't we be eating? Aren't you hungry?
Sydney: Yeah, I'm hungry. (Pauses) Let's do it.

Because he cannot sleep at night thinking about her (2.13)

Sydney: What?
Vaughn: I think you know what.
Sydney: I need you to tell me.
Vaughn: You need me to tell you what? That when you're on operations, I can't sleep at night. That when we're in debrief I have to force myself to remember what the hell we're supposed to be reviewing. When all I want to do is kiss you.

Because of their first kiss (2.13)



Because he broke up with Alice (2.14)
Sydney: About last night ...
Vaughn: Is this going to be about Alice?
Sydney: I know it's complicated ...
Vaughn: We're not together anymore.
Sydney: Since when?
Vaughn: Since this morning. The truth is, we've been over for a long time.


Because dinner can wait so that they can make love for the first time (2.14)

Vaughn: You're so beautiful.
Sydney: Dinner's ready.
Vaughn: You do have an oven. You know, we can reheat.

Because they wake up in bed together (2.15)

Because Sydney tells Vaughn she’s graduating that day. (2.15)

SYDNEY: Vaughn?
VAUGHN: How come you never call me Michael?
SYDNEY: I do sometimes. Vaughn?
VAUGHN: What?
SYDNEY: I'm graduating today.
VAUGHN: What? When the hell did you have time to take a class this year?
SYDNEY: I wasn't even going to go to the ceremony but... And I've been lying here remembering why I never gave school up and why I killed myself writing papers instead of... I don't know, accepting that I'd be an agent forever.
VAUGHN: You're going to quit the CIA, aren't you?

Because he is trying to get her in bed (2.16)

Vaughn: Can it wait?
Weiss: Apparently not, he wants Sydney too. Are you with her?
Vaughn: Uh ... No. I haven't seen her.
Weiss: You're in bed with her right now, aren't you?
Vaughn: I'm trying: just find out what he wants.

Because she offers him the middle drawer. (2.19)

Sydney: Vaughn. I mean, okay. The backpack is getting a little ridiculous.
Vaughn: What do you mean?
Sydney: (she points to her bureau) The middle drawer. It's yours.

Because he wants to take her to Santa Barbara (2.22)

(Hockey rink. Sydney and Vaughn.)
Sydney: I'm just so relieved for him, it's like I can breathe again.
Vaughn: You know where it's fun to breathe? Santa Barbara. You ever been?
Sydney: Yeah, I love it. The zoo, that giraffe with the crooked neck.
Vaughn: No, I mean, the beach, the Biltmore, the food. La Superica -- you ever been there?
Sydney: No.
Vaughn: Okay, we're going this weekend.
Sydney: Yeah, come on, as if we can go. There'll be some emergency, some--
(A cell rings.)

Because she lost something she had that she loved that it kills her that she doesn't have it anymore ~ Vaughn (3.3)

Because Vaughn, when he’s in the hospital, dreams of Sydney kissing him. (3.5)

Because when Vaughn wakes up in the hospital he is dreaming of Sydney (3.5)

Because some things don’t change. (3.7)

Sydney: If the NSC wants to find me, they will. Look, I was someone else for two years, Vaughn - someone I don't even remember. What am I supposed to do now? Spend the rest of my life in hiding?
Vaughn: Between that and a lobotomy, there isn't a choice!
Sydney:. I can't keep running forever.
Vaughn: I'll do everything I can to make sure you won't have to.
Sydney: Vaughn, why are you doing this? My life is already a disaster . . . now yours is, too.
Vaughn: What happened between us - everything. The way it is . . . isn't anyone's fault, Sydney. And even though everything's changed, some things don't. I'm not gonna lose you twice.

Because Vaughn helps Sydney escape the country despite risking his life and despite his wife having turned Sydney in (3.7)

Because Marshall even knows it's love (3.7)

Marshall to Vaughn: "I give you the codes, you're gonna bust [Sydney] out, aren't you? Kick some NSC booty. Can I just say 'LOVE' "

Because they kiss…even if Syd thinks it’s a dream (3.9)

Sydney: I can't help it, I just miss you. I do.
Vaughn: You know we can't do this.
Sydney: Give me a break, it's a dream - we can do whatever we want. At least, I can. They kiss.

Because Vaughn will kill for her (3.10)

Vaughn: If you betray her, I swear to you no matter what it costs me, I will kill you.
Sloane: No need to worry, Agent Vaughn. I love her too.

Because Vaughn admits there’s only one person in his life (3.12)

Vaughn: “There’s something I need you to know…..In my life, there’s only one person…”
Sydney: “I know. Vaughn. We’ll find each other. We always find each other.”
kiss

Because Vaughn is her soulmate (3.13)

Because Sydney still has feelings for Vaughn (3.13)

Sydney: Every day I wish I could go back in time, but I can't. And as much as I... as much as I still have feelings for you, I won't be the other woman - not ever.
Vaughn: I know.

Because Syndey remembers the anniversary of Vaughn’s father’s death and Lauren doesn’t. (3.14)

Sydney: Yesterday was the day, wasn't it? The anniversary of your father's death?
Vaughn: How could you remember that?
Sydney: I remember what missing him does to you.

Because he dropped the gun (3.14)

Because the man she loves is on that plane (3.15)

Because Vaughn is sleeping on Weiss's couch (3.17)

Because Vaughn offers to destroy the disks/keys if they are a danger to Sydney (3.17)

Because he asks if she wants to get a cup of coffee when they get home (3.17)

Because Lauren won't be his wife for long (3.19)

Because he is worried about her -- "The Passenger and the Chosen One shall battle. Neither shall survive." (3.20)

Because all he can think about is her (3.21)

Vaughn: Whatever Lauren did to me, I want you to know I take full responsibility for what's happened. I messed up, and if you can't get past that, I understand. But will you try?
Sydney: I don't know.
Vaughn: Will you at least think about it? Because it's all I can think about.
Sydney: Yeah. I will think about it.

Because Vaughn saved her from being consumed by her hatred of Sloane, and she wants to save him from his hatred of Lauren (3.21)

Because he loves Sydney more (3.22)

Vaughn: I said don't say her name!
Lauren: Sydney came back and I lost you--
Vaughn: I hate you, but I love Sydney more. That's the only reason you're not dying tonight.

Because he escapes from the hospital to warn Sydney (3.22)

Because he came for her (3.22)

Because Vaughn wants to come in (4.01)

Vaughn: Can I come in?
Sydney: If you come in, we both know what’s gonna happen…and I don’t want that—to jump right back in where we were…before everything…to pretend that those years didn’t happen.
Vaughn: Well, that would be nice, wouldn’t it?
Sydney: But they did.

Because Vaughn saves Sydney’s life by pulling her back into the train (4.01)

Because Vaughn and Sydney once again consummate their love (4.01)

Because Sydney confides in Vaughn when she learns her father murdered her mother (4.01)

Because Vaughn wishes her luck on a mission (4.02)

Sydney carefully removes the grate and sets it aside. Just as she's about to go down the shaft, Vaughn says:

Vaughn: Hey. Good luck.

Syd gives him a small smile.

Sydney: Thanks.

Because she feeds Vaughn pizza and vegetables at her birthday party for Weiss (4.03)

Because he is like her conscious (4.03)

Vaughn uses some weird laser mic to communicate with Sydney, who has made her way to a balcony.
Vaughn: Shotgun to Phoenix, how do you read?
Sydney: This is so weird. It sounds like you're right next to me. You can hear me?
Vaughn: No.
Sydney: That's good. It's like talking to my conscience.
Vaughn: It is, a little bit, isn't it?

Because Sydney has faith that Vaughn can turn Kiera (4.04)

Beause Sydney tells Vaughn he should spend the night (4.04)

Sydney: When we get back...maybe you should spend the night.

Because they are not boring (4.05)

Sydney: What, did they expect us to do, just drop and go at it on the floor?!
Vaughn: If one more person calls us boring...
Sydney (insulted): He didn't call us boring, he called us cold... (insecure) Who thinks we're boring?

Because of Vaughn’s proposal story (4.05)

Phil: How'd he pop the question?
Sydney (fumbling): He...took me to...
Vaughn (cutting in): Santa Barbara, actually.
He gives Sydney a half smile, which she returns. We can tell they are both thinking of the trip they were supposed to go on three years ago.
Vaughn: I had this whole romantic weekend planned. Presidential Suite at the Biltmore, candlelit dinner on the cliffs overlooking the ocean... So we went into town, and she wouldn't stop talking about the zoo. So, we went to the zoo. Figured I'd get it overwith. And then I saw how happy it made her. It made me forget about all my stupid plans. And here we had this personal chef making this unbelievable meal at the hotel, and... (pauses) I proposed on one knee in sawdust in front of a giraffe with a crooked neck.
Vaughn gives Sydney this very intense look and she stares back at him, clearly enthralled by his story.

Because they were supposed to go to Santa Barbara (4.05)

Sydney: The story you told at the dealership...
Vaughn nods. Sydney slides a hand down Vaughn's cheek and he leans in to drop a kiss on Syd's neck.
Sydney: We were supposed to go to Santa Barbara three years ago...and we never made it.
Vaughn shakes his head as if to say "No, but..."
Vaughn (in soft, loving voice): Karen and Dave did.
Syd and Vaughn stare lovingly at each other for a long moment and smiling before kissing passionately again.

Because they make love in the shower (4.05)

Because they have operational control of the airplane and decide to have dinner in Paris (4.05)


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For now, I've just copied the old opening post over here and we can decide what we want to do with it.

Old thread

Go here to read our ideas thus far.

I can repost my list of reasons/quotes and you all can add to that. See if we want it added to the opening....

Andy you might make a list of the Keepers thus far and let us discuss if we want to use that, and anyone who wants added to it, can do so.

Dawnie Want to repost that wonderful pic?
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A few threads/months ago we had this:


Here Without You - 3 Doors Down

A hundred days have made me older
Since the last time that I saw your pretty face
A thousand lies have made me colder
And I don't thnk I can look at this the same




All the miles that separate
Disappear now when I'm dreamin' of your face
I'm here without you baby
But you're still on my lonely mind



I think about you baby and I dream about you all the time
I'm here without you baby
But you're still with me in my dreams
And tonight, there's only you and me.
The miles just keep rollin'
As the people leave their way to say hello
I've heard this life is overrated
But I hope that it gets better as we go.




I'm here without you baby
But you're still on my lonely mind
I think about you baby and I dream about you all the time
I'm here without you baby
But you're still with me in my dreams
And tonight girl, there's only you and me.



Everything I know, and anywhere I go
It gets hard but it won't take away my love
And when the last one falls, when it's all said and done
It gets hard but it won't take away my love
I'm here without you baby
But you're still on my lonely mind
I think about you baby and I dream about you all the time
I'm here without you baby
But you're still with me in my dreams
And tonight girl, there's only you and me



And I'm sure you guys will be happy to hear that it's not remotely "raunchy".
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I dont think there should be a keepers list or a reasons list on this thread. Its just that every other shipper thread on FF has that. We've always been different here... Just my opinion though.

I can make you guys a new banner if you want btw...

Oh yeah Em, I remember that.

It still makes me sad hah.
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I wish we could find some of the older GA threads. There's some pretty good stuff there.
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M&MI remember that post on an old thread. Would it be too much to add to the opening post??? What do you all think? Should we add it? Or not?

nbsarah Personally I like the idea of the quotes or reasons list.... I think it would help any new people understand why Syd/Vaughn belong together. However, I think it is up to us all to decided if we want to add it. Again, what does everyone think?

And yeah, I'd say make a banner and we can see if we want to add it too. Dawnie had an awesome one, but we could use both, right?

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I bet you Stephy still has her old banner for thread #69 lying around! I think it would be awesome to put that in too
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I think the intro is wonderful. And has so much history. 2 years, dude. 'Tis a work of art. AND we have Aly's quote from that book ("love always wins"", etc) for the mushy hearted.


Dennyfur - I'll find it. Or make it again.

Should we re-add the 31 flavors?

And the 10 commandments? That wasn't racy. No, really.

ETA - I'll bring everything this weekend. tiome to come back! ahem.

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Quote:
And the 10 commandments? That wasn't racy.
That was just plain awesome.

Eeee, do you really have all that stuff, Stephy? I love you.

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I think it would help any new people understand why Syd/Vaughn belong together.
I think anything the things that accumulated on this thread as Sydney and Vaughn's relationship progressed through seasons one and two are more important than anything. These are the kinds of things that will help any new people understand the relationship. You can't really get S/V if you just watch the DVDs consecutively, or if you started watching S3. Quotes are nice and all, but I mean, newbies can just buy the DVDs if they really care.

Now that our thread is going to be no longer cringeworthy (YAY!) I think that we should slap a new rating on the thread and put it in the title- G! This is a place I wouldn't mind even my Grandparents seeing!
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I dont think there should be a keepers list or a reasons list on this thread. Its just that every other shipper thread on FF has that. We've always been different here... Just my opinion though.
I'm not posting long enough on this thread to know that. But I always like these keepership lists. If it isn't to much against thread history - I would go for it. Let the long time posters decide

So far our keepership list looks like this:
Andie - keeper of their kiss in Phase One
Carol- keeper of the *guardien angle* scene
denise* - keeper of Warehouse!Sex
Dawnie@ - keeper of their first official date in the French restaurant

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I think that the "I was recruited to have sex' needs to go and all of the "sex spots" need to go...
Why not make this thread a better place for everyone to come visit and talk about the characters and their relationship.
I feel the opening post material is innappropriate.
there are plenty of true GA moments and songs and hopes to talk about without being so crass.
Yep I found your bashing thread.. why do you guys have to be so threatened?
And for the flood of used to be posters who 'Are glad they got out of here' at one point I just want to let you know that the people who post here now do not 'suck' are not 'tweens' we do not need to be 'terrorized'
we did not 'take over' your thread. You were no longer here. We just continued talking about Alias.
I'm not '12' and not a 'prude' but why does everything have to be a war? you guys weren't here, you were not showing any interest in this place, so we just planned to make a place where we were more comfortable with it. And just by you guys 'planning an attack' on the thread to drive us 'new sucky' posters out, is it really necessary? You weren't posting here, so why 'attack us' because we were?. We were just going to gear up for the new season since the thread had 'been abandoned'. We are not 'clueless' and not exactly 'new' to the this thread or the forum..
since you quoted me..

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erm. Was going through #147 and saw this blasphemy:

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Yes this place was so racy they actually had to give it a NC 17 rating, it just really wasn't a nice place to visit. I wish they would edit the the first post still...just kinda cringe worthy.
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OMG.

I totally missed that post.

I hate her more than I hated modwhoshallremainnamelesswhotookawaythenc17rating.

[edit: is it pathetic how angry this make me??]

Thanks for hating me!
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Hi all.

I'll try explain where our suggested changes came from. Several of us have been posting on the this thread for quite some time. Just for clarification I called us the "newer" one and the "original" posters the "original" or "older" ones. This doesn't mean that the "newer" ones are necessarily newbies or that we haven't been posting her for a long time or that we are even young, just as it didn't mean that the original posters are older, etc.

As we've been chatting about the show, the characters, etc. over the last several months, we realized that the thread just wan't what the opening post represented. In fact, I don't think it has been in quite some time. Several people suggested we change it. I agreed. However, I did not want to just take over the thread and not get input from people who had been away. We certainly could have just continued as we were and none of the "orginial" posters would have had any idea of the changes we were considering until they arrived in Jan. I didn't think that was fair, so I wanted to PM who I could find.

I PMed the people who had posted on the last thread, which ran from about April or May, when the show was still airing. Then I also PMed a few people who I was suggested to PM. I certainly didn't mean to not include anyone.

However, I thought it only fair that all the GAs talk and see what we wanted to do with the thread. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that everyone was willing to make some changes. I guess I thought the opening posts changed periodically anyway with suggestions from new posters, etc.

After all, we all ship Sydney/Vaughn, and we are a community. I figured we could consider the old thread opening post and also consider the ideas of the newer ones. I may have been wrong.

One of my suggestions had been to have two different threads, though that seems rather crazy. Part of the difference may lie in the "raunchinees" or rating of the thread, but part of the difference also lies in the welcoming of ideas and changes.

I think the easiest thing to do is compromise, as I think the newer posters on here have been saying, and revamp the opening thread to include some ideas of the newer posters. However, if the majority does not want these changes, we can deal with that.

I'm chatting with my co-mod to see her opinion. We don't want to alieante anyone or leave anyone out. That is why I wanted to draw the people who hadn't posted in a long, long time back and get their opinions. I didn't want it to appear that we had made all kinds of changes while they were gone.

What is so sad is that while I was trying to include everyone and be diplomatic about this, people viewed this as an attack and talked negatively about us. I realize those "talks" were on another thread, so it is none of my business I suppose. However, that is why I PMed as many people as I could and that is why I posted ideas and asked for suggestions on here -- I wanted people to be honest with me; if you don't want change, let us know by posting here.

I'm hoping we can get all of this resolved.
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I just brought over Carol's list of the reasons why we love Sydney and Vaughn. I think it should be on the first post and everyone could add their own reasons and quotes.

Guardian Angel

Because he recruits her as a double agent (1.1)

Because even Weiss can see Vaughn cares for Sydney (1.2)
Vaughn nervously sitting at desk, figeting with a coin. Sydney is on a mission.
Weiss: Any word from her yet?
V: No, I don’t expect to hear anything from her till she gets back.
W: Your girlfriends’ name is Alice.
V: Will you shut up.
W: I’m just checking.
V: Get out of my office.

Because Syndey demands Vaughn become her handler again. (1.3)
Lambert: Who the hell do you think you're talking to?
Sydney: I know exactly who I'm talking to. Tell Devlin if Agent Vaughn isn't on the either end of this earpiece when I turn it on, the C.I.A. gets nothing.

Because Vaughn is her guardian angel… (1.3)
Sydney: Who am I talking to?
Vaughn: Your invisible friend.
S: Good. Where are you?
V: Satellite relay station back in LA, watching you from a 200-mile orbit.
S: (Looking at the sky) My guardian angel.


Because of the car wash scene (1.7)
At car wash
S: You sure you’re okay?
V: Yeah. I just –
S: Did you have a fight with your wife?
V: My what?
S: Your wife
V: What wife? I have no wife.
S: No? There was a picture in your office – you and that woman. I thought you were married.
V: She and I are not remotely – you thought I was married this whole time?
S: I guess so. What’s the big deal?
V: Nothing.

V: Why’d you ask me if I’d had a fight with my girlfriend?
S: I don’t know. Did you?
V: Huge.
S: (grins)

Because Sydney has Vaughn’s number. (1.4)
VAUGHN: (To Sydney) Okay, listen to me. There's something you need to know. When you first walked into my office with that stupid Bozo hair, I thought you were crazy. I thought you might actually be a crazy person. But I watched you, and I read your statement, and I've seen... I've seen how you think, I've seen how you work, I've seen how you are in this job. In this job, you see darkness. You see the worst in people and though the jobs are different and the missions change, and the enemies have a thousand names, the one crucial thing, the one real responsibility you have is to not let your rage, and your resentment, and your disgust, darken you. When you're at your absolute lowest, at your most depressed, just remember that you can always... you know. You got my number.

Because even Jack sees the tensions between them 1.07
Vaughn: Sydney's life is worth the risk!
Jack: Not to Sydney! Taking them down is what gets her up in the morning. Or... did you think it was those meetings she has with you?

Because he bought her a Christmas present 1.10
Vaughn: (embarrassed) I don't know. I was in this store, you know, um... this little antique place.
Sydney: (big smile) What were you doing in an antique store?
Vaughn: I don't know. (laughs nervously) Whatever. Um, look, if you don't like it just... don't tell me.

Because Vaughn wants to go to a hockey game with her 1.14
Vaughn: Yeah. Last week, when you talked about quitting SD-6--
Sydney: I was being naive.
Vaughn: No, but, um, what you said about wanting to go to a hockey game... wanting me to be part of your life... I, uh, I think I wasn't clear about something. (pause) That it would be nice to be in public with you, to actually get to look at you. Grab a pizza or go to a hockey game. I-I just... I wasn't clear that I would really like that, too.

Because Vaughn wants to break into the Vatican with her 1.16
Sydney: We'd have to leave tonight. You in?
Vaughn: (shy smile) Yeah. I'll break into the Vatican with you.

Because he belives in her … and he’ll throw her in his turnk 1.17
Sydney: You didn't think about it. Not once. The possibility that Rambaldi could be right about me.
Vaughn: No. I didn't.
Sydney: Why not?
Vaughn: Because I believe in you. Do you think I'd just throw anyone in my trunk?

Because Vaughn is about a mile across “that” line. 1.21
Weiss: I don't want your thanks. I want it to stop.
Vaughn: Look, Sydney's my responsibility . . .
Weiss: Mike, I'm not going to trivialize your relationship with her by calling it a crush . .
Vaughn: A crush?
Weiss: But whatever it is, it's starting to affect me and if that sounds selfish to you, I was hoping to retire fully vested. I know you genuinely care for her. I do, too. But there is a line that we have been sworn not to cross. We're about a mile past that.
Vaughn: I don't know how to be Sydney's handler without making it personal.
Weiss: Figure out a way.


Because he knows all her favorite spots and tracks her down 1.22
Sydney: Hi. How did you find me?
Vaughn: You told me a couple of months ago that when you feel the need to disappear, you go to the observatory. But the observatory was closed. And then I remembered you said the pier calms you down. But you weren't there. And you weren't at the bluffs and the palisades, either.
Sydney: You didn't really go to all those places.
Vaughn: Yeah, I did. And then I remembered you liked the train station, too. Normal people going to their normal jobs.
Sydney: I can't believe you remember that.

Because he watched stopped the day they met 2.8
Vaughn: This watch belonged to my father. It's broken now, but it used to keep perfect time. And when he gave it to me, he said, "You could set your heart by this watch." It stopped October 1st: the day we met. (Sydney is about to respond when her pager goes off, then Vaughn's goes off as well. They look to see who it is.) Kendall.
Sydney: Me too.


Because she gives him tickets to watch her and Will and Francie play mini golf (2.9) ????

Because Syd admits to Francie that she has a crush on a guy at work.(2.11)

Because they actually go to dinner together (2.12)
Vaughn: The nearest Alliance cell is in Zurich. The CIA tracks SD-6 security section. There haven't been any signals, no movement.
Sydney: You're serious.
Vaughn: We've been to restaurants and sat near each other. We've met in parks and convenience stores, and all of them in LA where we are much more likely to be seen. Look, two things -- one, I think it's not that great a risk and two, I am hungry. I'm starving. I mean, we're going to be together anyway, why can't we be eating? Aren't you hungry?
Sydney: Yeah, I'm hungry. (Pauses) Let's do it.

Because he cannot sleep at night thinking about her (2.13)
Sydney: What?
Vaughn: I think you know what.
Sydney: I need you to tell me.
Vaughn: You need me to tell you what? That when you're on operations, I can't sleep at night. That when we're in debrief I have to force myself to remember what the hell we're supposed to be reviewing. When all I want to do is kiss you.

They kiss passionately at the end of this episode. Was this their first kiss?


Because he broke up with Alice (2.14)
Sydney: About last night ...
Vaughn: Is this going to be about Alice?
Sydney: I know it's complicated ...
Vaughn: We're not together anymore.
Sydney: Since when?
Vaughn: Since this morning. The truth is, we've been over for a long time.


Because Sydney tells Vaughn she’s graduating that day. (2.15)

Because he is trying to get her in bed (2.16)
Vaughn: Can it wait?
Weiss: Apparently not, he wants Sydney too. Are you with her?
Vaughn: Uh ... No. I haven't seen her.
Weiss: You're in bed with her right now, aren't you?
Vaughn: I'm trying: just find out what he wants.

I know I’m missing some big scenes here…

Because she offers him the middle drawer. (2.19)
Sydney: Vaughn. I mean, okay. The backpack is getting a little ridiculous.
Vaughn: What do you mean?
Sydney: (she points to her bureau) The middle drawer. It's yours.

Because Vaughn, when he’s in the hospital, dreams of Sydney kissing him. (3.5)

Because some things don’t change. (3.7)
Sydney: If the NSC wants to find me, they will. Look, I was someone else for two years, Vaughn - someone I don't even remember. What am I supposed to do now? Spend the rest of my life in hiding?
Vaughn: Between that and a lobotomy, there isn't a choice!
Sydney:. I can't keep running forever.
Vaughn: I'll do everything I can to make sure you won't have to.
Sydney: Vaughn, why are you doing this? My life is already a disaster . . . now yours is, too.
Vaughn: What happened between us - everything. The way it is . . . isn't anyone's fault, Sydney. And even though everything's changed, some things don't. I'm not gonna lose you twice.

Because they kiss…even if Syd thinks it’s a dream (3.9)
Sydney: I can't help it, I just miss you. I do.
Vaughn: You know we can't do this.
Sydney: Give me a break, it's a dream - we can do whatever we want. At least, I can. Kiss

Because Vaughn will kill for her (3.10)
Vaughn: If you betray her, I swear to you no matter what it costs me, I will kill you.
Sloane: No need to worry, Agent Vaughn. I love her too.

Because Vaughn admits there’s only one person in his life (3.12)
Vaughn: “There’s something I need you to know…..In my life, there’s only one person…”
Sydney: “I know. Vaughn. We’ll find each other. We always find each other.”
kiss

Because Sydney still has feelings for Vaughn (3.13)
Sydney: Every day I wish I could go back in time, but I can't. And as much as I... as much as I still have feelings for you, I won't be the other woman - not ever.
Vaughn: I know.

Because Syndey remembers Vaughn’s father’s death and Lauren doesn’t. (3.14)
Sydney: Yesterday was the day, wasn't it? The anniversary of your father's death?
Vaughn: How could you remember that?
Sydney: I remember what missing him does to you.


Because all he can think about is her (3.21)
Vaughn: Whatever Lauren did to me, I want you to know I take full responsibility for what's happened. I messed up, and if you can't get past that, I understand. But will you try?
Sydney: I don't know.
Vaughn: Will you at least think about it? Because it's all I can think about.
Sydney: Yeah. I will think about it.

Because he loves Sydney more (3.22)
Vaughn: I said don't say her name!
Lauren: Sydney came back and I lost you--
Vaughn: I hate you, but I love Sydney more. That's the only reason you're not dying tonight.



He dropped the gun…



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Thanks Dawnie I do like the idea of reasons and the Keepership.

I went ahead and posted your banner in the opening. It's great! and we had no others.

I'll wait a bit and see what my co- mod says, but I do think we have the right to change the opening how we see fit. I was just wanting to involve everyone.

I'd like to add the new ideas....we probably want to delete some of my quotes so it's not so long.

Edited to add....

Hmmm..... something else just occured to me. What rating is FF? PG? I need to check that. I don't want us getting in trouble if the opening post is too explicit for the general FF audience. If so, then we certainly need to change it. I'll check this out.

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