hshapir2

good points

I also noticed how her mind was on Pacey after kissing Aj

JJH85

Ditto

Butterfly85

AJ clearly wasn't cutting it. When Pacey kissed Joey, it rocked her world and shook her to her core lol. I love how Jen and Doug said that Joey wouldn't be so pissed off if she didn't want it too and had feelings for Pacey.

hshapir2

thanks

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agree. I also noticed her smiling when Pacey said she might need a shoulder to lean on

ChristinaL80

AJ was just a rebound guy after Dawson. He was also a way for Joey to avoid her feelings for Pacey.

Butterfly85

lol Yeah, AJ was a huge transition guy. She definitely used him as the buffer to avoid her new feelings for Pacey.

JJH85

I think it was more this than it was about rebounding after Dawson.

Butterfly85

For sure. I also loved how Pacey knew how full of crap AJ was (like when he was driving Joey to visit him in "A Cinderella Story.") It also adds to it being more about keeping her feelings for Pacey at bay cause the whole AJ relationship wasn't real, it was a fantasy. Just like Dawson when you think about that too. Pacey was THE REAL THING and that is one of the reasons she was scared to tackle it along with being willing to break it off so fast with Pacey in the last season as well.

hshapir2

good points

I like how she tells Pacey that she loves him and it's real

Butterfly85

I love how emotional Joey is during that whole speech, especially when she says she loves Pacey and it's very real. It's like she was just completely stripped when she told Pacey all of that. Ugh, it's annoying her sister kept interrupting them.

3ku11

Can someone clear something up for me. After Joey and Pacey broke up end of S4. Did she ever get back together with Dawson? Sorry my recollection is fuzzy lol. I know it Diddnt last.

clarkson_fan

They contemplated it at the beginning of season 5 but never did anything, really. Mitch dying probably had a big part to do with it, but also they were going nowhere fast before he died, so....

And they also contemplated it at the end of season 5/beginning of 6 but that didn't actually work out. So they never truly got back together after the end of season 2.

Butterfly85

^^^Which is one of the many reasons why I couldn't see Joey end up with Dawson when the show ended. They never really had a REAL relationship, and broke apart SO EASILY every single time. They never stuck it out and tried like Pacey and Joey did in their relationships.

clarkson_fan

Exactly. Just like Pacey says in 321 "pretending to be grown up only to drop each other at the first sign of crisis" which is what they do even in season 5 and 6.

Pacey and Joey were together for almost a year, practically a year, and they had sh** to deal with all the time, and they made it work. Yeah they ultimately broke up (and it was handled so messily) but at least it was over something more adult and understandable - something that many people in real life probably break up over too (how are you gonna make it work after high school).

(Although with PJo it's funny how a big part of them breaking up was Pacey staying Capeside because he wasn't going to college and Joey going to Boston and them "being a world apart and you know it" and Pacey ends up in Boston anyway?)

Even in season 6, when they end their almost getting back together because it "didn't feel right" to Joey (lol yeah right) it was stupid. If they had done it when Pacey hit rock bottom with his job, however...that would have at least made sense.

Anyway, the point of the rambling lol...Dawson and Joey were actually only together for 4 months of their lives, two months for each time they were together. Very high school of them, but not much basis for being together for the rest of their lives.

3ku11

Oh yes I’m rewatching the show, on S4. Just after the big storm episode. Where end of episode Pacey apologises to The very self righteous Dawson 🤗. And they start the process of mending their friendship. I recall around S6. Dawson and Joey tRY reconciling but doesent work. Of course they are together most of their senior year. And after their break up at prom. They are apart for a few months. And reunite in Boston. In their second year at Boston they fall in love again and get back together. They break up and I think she momentarily reunites with Dawson. Around 2008 on the timeline it’s five years in the future correct me if I’m wrong. At Gales wedding old feelings return. They then get married and have children.

Funny thing is the original plan was always constructed as Dawson Joey as endgame since the pilot. But critics and fans alike praised the shows decision to make the bold decision to change that to Joey and Pacey.