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Old 02-27-2008, 05:09 AM
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Anti-PA Thread #1 - Pacey VS. ZanX: Round 1.. DING!

THE Official Anti-PA Thread.



Pacey: Yeah, but that's different, Dawson. Andie's a girl, okay? And Tamara... Tamara's a woman.

Just some scenes showing the PA love.

Is this how you're going to react to ALL of his sexual past?


Because a lot of jealously goes an even longer way..


Pretty obvious who he’d rather be dancing with...


Because they BOTH thought her idea was crazy.


As i’ve always said.. because of Andie, his contact with the rest of the cast was very limited in Season 2.
Why you ask? Maybe to make their relationship seem more ‘believable’, who knows.
I just found it annoying, though.. because I swear these are his friends at the ‘election’, right?



.. so why is he not sitting with them? Why is he sitting ALONE? Yea.. thought so.


Doesn’t seem like she appreciated everything he did for her.. even after her ridiculous requests.


Is this how most guys act after sleeping with someone for the first time? I dunnooooo...


Because you believe the school gossip over your boyfriend..


.. and his reaction.


Ok, let’s face it.. that’s just down right creepy. Totally should NOT be in a relationship in that state.


Seems like this guy REALLY makes you happy, Andie..


... someone missing Marc?


Yes. Yes, you are.

Reasons why we love or hate Pacey Witter and Andie McPhee
1. Because stability is the key to their relationship including: drinking, drugs, and ghosts.
2. Because he used her to pass.
3. Because picking a lady up at her house is very, VERY wrong...
4. Because their relationship was based on lies.
5. Because hiding things from your boyfriend is another word for love.
6. Because their ‘spinning hugs’ LITERALLY made you dizzy, and induced vomiting.
7. Because it's important to wait a long time before you have sex again.
8. Because their first time was in a car.
9. Because Kristy makes him Misty, but Andie makes us hate Pandie.
10. Because throwing books at the person you love is a sign of affection.
11. Because she's just a girl… not a woman.
12. Because he'd rather leave her on the street corner, than answer her.
13. Because he had to be told by Dawson who to date.
14. Because she was feeling up another man's boxers as she declared her love for Pacey.
15. Because trust is not an issue.
16. Because her friend in the mental institute > than Pacey.
17. Because purity tests hold the key to your true feelings about a person.
18. Because she'd rather talk to her boyfriends dad for 2 hours, instead.
19. Because they'd rather hug it out, than actually be in a mature, sexual relationship.
20. Because… *whisper* Andie sees dead people.
21. Because he'd rather dance with Kristy instead.
22. Because Andie doesn't find Pacey's past ‘an admirable event’.
23. Because she hypocritically judged him.
24. Because Pacey pressured her into sex before she was ready.
25. Because no, he doesn't want to come home with you.
26. Because not talking for a week is the definition of a healthy relationship.
27. Because he had to change for her.
28. Because after one dance with Joey, loving Andie isn't an option.
29. Because to Andie it didn't matter who her first time was with, as long as it included a dinner, a walk and a B&B.
30. Because she bought him the ugliest hat in hopes that no other girl would give him a second glance.
31. Because the look on his face when he saw her brown hair said everything.
32. Because their relationship was so dull, it wasn’t even screen capped for the last half of the season.
33. Because when she informs him that she wants to jump him, he kisses her forehead instead.
34. Because first impressions are everything.
35. Because the reason they crashed was Kristy.
36. Because when you put the words "Dumb" and "O" together you get the key to lasting relationship.
37. Because when he stuck up for her brother, she wouldn't talk to him.
38. Because she sabotaged his chances with Kristy.
39. Because she gives him left over gifts.
40. Because we think that 8 ball had the right idea.
41. Because even in their fantasy life, all he wanted was the viper.
Quotes of “love”
Guess he just didn’t want to dance with Andie...
Andie: Come on, Pacey, what do you say? Wanna dance?
Pacey: I told you McPhee. I don't dance.
Andie: I don't believe you. I think you're holding out on me in some power move to keep control in this relationship.
Pacey: What relationship?
[Later on]
Kristy: Are you one of them?
Pacey: Excuse me?
Kristy: I was just wondering if you were one of those quick pulses.
Pacey: Yeah. Of course I am. I think you're incredible Kristy. You already know that.
Kristy: You know, as lame as school dances can be, there's always that one moment that seems to make it worth while. So, what do you say Pacey? Will you dance with me?
Pacey: Yeah.
*They start dancing.*

About Tamara in Alternative Lifestyles..
Andie: Why didn't you tell me about her?
Pacey: It never came up.
Andie: No good, Pacey. It did, and you lied.
Pacey: Come on, Andie, what was I supposed to say?
Andie: Okay, well how about for starters, "Oh, before you fall for me, Andie, I slept with my teacher."
Pacey: Oh, right, there's an easy sentence.
Andie: It's not a joke, okay? I'm serious, and despite your braggart tendencies, Pacey, it's not exactly an admirable event.
Pacey: That's not fair, Andie. You're judging me, and you don't even know the circumstances. Besides, I slept with her, not you.
Andie: Why would you do it, Pacey?
Pacey: Why? Sex.
Andie: Oh, so there were no feelings involved.
Pacey: Of course there were feelings involved.

Andie believing an enemy over her boyfriend...
Pacey: Hey McPhee. You got a second?
Andie: I'm busy.
Pacey: Yeah, I know but I need to talk to you.
Andie: Really? Apparently, you've been doing enough talking for both of us.
Pacey: Excuse me?
Andie: You know, it's interesting that I get the cold, shut-down, non-verbal, Pacey while the rest of Capeside gets a taste of return of Pacey Witter, underachieving, town-latthario.
Pacey: Listen, I know you're probably freaked out by my weirdness yesterday, and actually, that's why I came in here to talk to you but you're kind of losing me on everything else.
Andie: What have you been saying to people about us Pacey?
Pacey: About us? Nothing.
Andie: That's not what Abby Morgan says.

You always push away the person you love...
Andie: My dad is M.I.A., my mom is barely to losing it, I'm holding on by my fingertips, and you're the one getting screwed! Oh, that's right. It's always got to be about Pacey!
Pacey: Don't make me the bad guy, Andie. I'll be your shoulder to cry on, I'll even be your punching bag, but I'm not the bad guy.
Andie: Pacey, I keep adding things to my list instead of substracting. With school, my mother, Jack, you, something's got to give and the way I see it, there's only one thing expendable on that list.
Pacey: C'mon, Andie. You're not in the right place to make that decision now. I just...you're not thinking straight, okay?
Andie: Yes I am. For the first time, I'm seeing everything crystal. It's you, Pacey, you're the one that's got to give. We need to cool it because us, that's the problem.
Pacey: Andie, you don't mean that.
Andie: Yes, I do! And if you really care about me and you really want to help me then you would just back off and leave me alone

Gotta love the support system she provided...
Andie: How'd it go?
Pacey: As well as could be imagined. They're suspending me for a week. Why'd you bother coming down here?
Andie: Because I care about you.
Pacey: Do you?
Andie: What kind of question is that?
Pacey: It's a reasonable one, Andie. Do you have any idea what I went through today? Do you know how much I needed your support?
Andie: Pacey, I can't support everything you do. I never will.
Pacey: I don't need you to agree with everything I say, Andie. The world would be a boring place if you did. But what I do need to know is that somehow, some way, you're there for me.
Andie: How dare you. I challenge one action of yours and you throw it in my face as if it's some kind of weakness?
Pacey: It's not just me! You weren't there for your brother, either!
Andie: Oh, yes I was. I apoligized to him and I was coming to apoligize for you but for some reason, I was struggling with it all the way down here. That reason has become crystal clear. Jack is innocent, Pacey. What's happening right now he has no control over. But you. Pacey, you knew exactly what you were doing in that classroom.
Pacey: Well, what would you have me do, Andie? Just stand there and let Peterson do that to him?
Andie: There are other ways of handling--
Pacey: When I knew the whole time that IT WAS MY FAULT. It was MY fault. Peterson knew that he couldn't get the best of me so he went after your brother. If I hadn't of instigated him that day...none of this would have happened. I did whatever I could to stop it. I had to stop it.
Andie: Why didn't you tell me that you felt responsible?
Pacey: Because, Andie, you didn't want to hear it. You just wanted me to clean up the mess. But there are some messes you just have to live with. I'm going home now.
Andie: Do you want me to come with you?
Pacey: No. Not tonight.

So mature...
Andie: Hi.
Pacey: Hi.
Andie: You haven't called.
Pacey: Last I checked my phone has an incoming line.
Andie: You left me stranded on a pier after telling me that I was weak and insensitive. I really wasn't up for talking to you.
Pacey: And you judged and abandoned me when I needed you the most. I thought I'd wait for your call.
Andie: My call? And I'd call and say what?
Pacey: For starters, "I'm sorry."
Andie: I agree. "I'm sorry," would be nice to hear. Look, was there anything else you wanted because we really don't seem to be making any progress here.
Pacey: Well, Andie, I just saw you sitting over here and I thought I'd come say hello. Any progress beyond that I hadn't really considered.
Andie: Well, consider this. Hello is typically followed by one thing.
*Andie closes her book and packs up.*
Andie: Goodbye.
*She walks out of the cafeteria leaving Pacey behind.*

SOLID relationship...
Pacey: Okay, Andie, what the hell is going on? And don't tell me that it's nothing because you've been acting strange from the second I picked you up from that clinic, and now I have to beg you to spend some free time with me. So what is happening?
Andie: We shouldn't talk about this here, Pacey!
Pacey: So, I'm right.
Andie: Look, this is not the time, okay?
Pacey: Is it me? Are you trying to end things with me? Is that what this is about?
Andie: No! That's the last thing I want.
Pacey: Fine. Then, what is so awful that you've waited so long to tell me about, Andie?
Andie: A lot happened to me this summer, Pacey, a lot.
Pacey: What are you trying to say?
Andie: Okay, if we are going to talk about this now then you have to promise me that you will not say one word until I'm done.
Pacey: Okay, go on.
Andie: No, promise me, Pacey!
Pacey: Okay, I promise. Just tell me what's wrong with you.
Andie: (starts crying) When I went to Mayfield to get better, I was someone else. I wasn't the same person that came to Capeside. I wasn't the girl you fell in love with. My first week, I met Marc. He had been through everything I had went through and more. In and out of facilities, three times, on and off medication since he was nine. I didn't write to you about him, because I didn't want you to get jealous -- we were just friends. We'd spend our free time together, just talking endlessly, mostly about our fears. I was so afraid, Pacey, afraid of everything. I was scared that they were never gonna let me out of there, or that whatever was broken inside of me wouldn't be fixable. Marc -- he understood these things like nobody else could because they were his fears too. He even had a girlfriend that he was anxious to get back to.
Pacey: You slept with him?
Andie: We knew immediately afterwards that it was wrong, for both of us.
Pacey: You slept with him, Andie.
Andie: We both agreed to just be friends and not tell our significant others but, Pacey, when I saw you-- It was the biggest mistake I've ever made in my life. And all I keep thinking right now is what if you can't forgive me. Pacey, you have to forgive me. You have to forgive me.
(Pacey makes a disgusted noise and turns and walks out of the building leaving Andie alone, crying.)

Uh oh..
Andie: I was hoping you'd find me here.
Pacey: To be honest, I told myself a thousand times not to come.
Andie: So why did you?
Pacey: 'Cause I owe you that much.
Andie: I've already told you how sorry I am. What else can I say?
Pacey: There's nothing else to say.
Andie: So you don't think that you can forgive me?
Pacey: Whether or not I can forgive you, Andie, is not going to be what keeps us apart. What you did... Our relationship was like this beautiful thing, and I don't think you ever realized how powerful it was. You changed my life, Andie, you were that person for me. You inspired me to be a man that I'd only ever dreamt about being. When you first started to get sick, it dawned on me that I might not be that person for you. I can never go back to loving you the way I did knowing that my love wasn't strong enough the first time around. I could always forgive you, Andie, but I will never forget.
Andie: But I still love you, Pacey.
(Andie grabs Pacey's hand. Pacey grabs her wrist and removes her hand from his.)
Pacey: Goodbye, Andie.

So now he’s the school idiot again, eh?
Andie: Don't worry, Pacey. This isn't going to be one of those horribly awkward "hope-boy-didn't-mean-all-those-hurtful-things-he-said-during-the-breakup" moment.
Pacey: Well, that's a relief 'cause I sure don't want to play the "guy-feels-guilty-about-breakup-even-though-it-was-girl-who-had-an-affair-with-the-mental-patient" scene.
Andie: Fair enough.
Pacey: (picking up study cards) Not that it's any of my business anymore, Andie, but have you ever heard of over-preparing for a test?
Andie: What? As opposed to not preparing at all?
Pacey: As opposed to making yourself crazy over something with the word 'practice' in front of it.
Andie: If you want to throw away everything we've-I mean you've worked for, that's fine by me.

Again?
Andie: Just go ahead Pacey, wade to complete your return to the halls of academic loserdom.
Pacey: Maybe you'd like to open it up Andie? I mean, after all, cheating seems to be an activity that you're real comfortable with these days.

The End.
Pacey: I made a mistake last night, Andie. We both made a mistake.
Andie: What did we do? Nothing.
Pacey: All I can tell you is how it made me feel.
Andie: How?
Pacey: Like I went against what I know is right.
Andie: That's funny because… today is actually the first day that I've felt really happy since I left the hospital.
Pacey: That is funny. You know, there used to be a time when you and I were so in sync in everything that we did, just connected. And look at us now ! We have the opposite reaction to the exact same event.
Andie: Pacey, please don't do this. Not now. Don't break up with me.
Pacey: I never wanted to break up with you, Andie. Never. I mean, all those months just waiting, secretly hoping...
Andie: You're just… you're just punishing me, that's what this is about and you just need to stop being angry with me.
Pacey: I'm not punishing you, Andie. Punishment implies that you did something wrong.
Andie: I slept with another guy six months ago. I knew it was wrong when I did it. I keep trying to tell you this and make you understand it. How many times do I have to say it?
Pacey: Andie, if you wanted to sleep with him, if even just for a second, then maybe it wasn't wrong.
Andie: It was…
Pacey: Maybe... maybe that was just your heart's way of telling you that I'm not the one. Cause that's what my heart's telling me right now. It's telling me that you're not the one.
Andie: (crying) You don't mean that, Pacey. Pacey, you can't mean that.
Pacey: Andie, I'm sorry.
Andie: No, just… just forget it.




A playlist to help you through the headache that some call “Pandie”:
1. Scars – Papa Roach
PAPA ROACH LYRICS - Scars
2. Call Me When Your Sober – Evanescence
EVANESCENCE LYRICS - Call Me When You're Sober
3. Apologize – OneRepublic
ONEREPUBLIC LYRICS - Apologize
4. Harder to Breath – Maroon 5
MAROON 5 LYRICS - Harder To Breathe



... k, so.. obey the rules, etc.
I'm sure we all know the drill..
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:01 PM
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Okay. I have to say that I'm probably the only other person here who didn't care for Pandie, but this is the funniest anti-thread I've read. It made me laugh so much!

I love the banner. I think I spent a good 15 minutes just laughing at that alone. Then your pictures, reasons, lists, and even a playlist is just too funny. I'll have to listen to those songs again.

I guess the reason I don't care for Pandie much is because she cheated on him. It's like we were told how pure and intense Pandie is, then they cheat? I just don't think a relationship is very strong in the first place if one partner can cheat so easily. I guess that's what bothers me most about Pandie.
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YAY!!!
A thread I actually LOVE! lol
THANK YOU ALLYBUBBA!!!!!
&&& YES I did recieve an infraction..
whatever that means..
lol I'm new here.
Didn't know speaking your mind was off limits.
Oh well...
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Hooooray Allybubba and her magical ways!!!!!!
Every single word on this page is hilarious!
gReAt jOb! <3
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No more infractions so we can have lots of quality time in this thread, LMAO!

And thanks, smm.. funny was definitely was I was going for.
I think I could read over those reasons for days.

The cheating thing.. I dunno, I always found it not so earth shattering.. his reaction was totally normal, though.

But she was in a mental institute.. so it's pretty obvious she was HIGHLY unstable, LMAO.
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I go back and forth with PA. PA fought plenty, just like PJ
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Good! We're not the only two Allybubba!

My favorite reasons from the list are:

6. Because their ‘spinning hugs’ LITERALLY made you dizzy, and induced vomiting.

It literally did make me sick... No wonder Joey didn't want to kiss Jack after witnessing that!

7. Because it's important to wait a long time before you have sex again.

This is when Pacey told Andie to wait, right? If so, that's genius! It must not have been very great if he didn't want to do it again. Usually, especially in season four with joey, he was excited to do it again. Remember how he wondered why she wasn't touching him? But with Andie, he was the one who didn't want to be touched... I find this very funny!

28. Because after one dance with Joey, loving Andie isn't an option.

Isn't that the truth?

33. Because when she informs him that she wants to jump him, he kisses her forehead instead.
36. Because when you put the words "Dumb" and "O" together you get the key to lasting relationship.

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Allybubba = My hero<3
Ahh, it's just wonderful!
I just don't see what others see when they see PA together.
Am I missing something?
...nah, didn't think so.


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I go back and forth with PA. PA fought plenty, just like PJ
How can you even compare PA to PJ?
Do you not read the reasonings above?
Go to the PJ thread, read those.
Then come back and tell me how right I was.
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LOL, it's funny cuz sex doesn't change everything.. it's just a part of growing in that relationship together, and moving forward.
It's because they used a lame excuse.

You see.. the reason he was backing off was because he "wished that he had taken the high road, and that's not like him" LMFAO.

Way to say that you're a horrible person, Pacey.
What a stupid way of saying that before Andie came around, Pacey was a useless piece of trash.

We get it.. she annoyed him mercilessly to do his homework, and he got some A's and B's.
But since when does SCHOOL define you as a person?
Pacey was obviously an extremely smart person. he just didn't apply himself to something that he didn't see necessary.
Boo hoo.

And Lynn, I know exactly what you mean.
From the minute it was from S1 to S2 and she crashes into him, I KNEW her only purpose for being brought into the show was to go out with Pacey.

I just never felt their chemistry.. and Josh LACKEDDDDDD hard in any scene with her.
I hate saying it, but eh.. gross.
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sorry, I just meant PA had plenty of fights

I did think it was funny that Pacey said it was nice after having sex with Andie. This wasn't even his first time
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Agreed! Allybubba.
I just couldn't stand her mumbles and quick lashes at anyone who didn't involve her.
What really made me DISLIKE her was when she got angry at Pacey and Joey on "The Longest Day".
Bah, gross is right.
Her and Pacey just made me dizzy.
Why, OH, Why, didn't he just leave her with Marc?


&& hshapir2,
It's ok.
As long as you know now.

PA did. Everyone had a lot of fights on the show.
Drama, drama, drama.
Gotta LOVE it.
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Agreed Lynn, why couldn't she have just stayed there and be with Marc? I don't think Pacey would have minded too much. Afterall, he had plenty of strippers to keep him happy during their "serious relationship."
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LOLLLLLLLL, he was too busy holding hands with Joey in the finale, anyways.
AHAHA, ohhhhhhh yes.

But dude.. her whining.. all.. the time..
PAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY CEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
*shoots self*

But honestly.. she looked damn happy enough to have stayed with Marc.. so why not.
They could have made mentally ill babies together for the rest of time!
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"serious relationship" is right smm08 waste of air.
oh well, at least Pacey came to his senses before he ended up in the nut house just like her.

lol @ allybubba
"PAAAAAAAAAY CEEEEEEEEEEE!! I want this and that,
I know you'll give it all and I wont appericate it
but STILL! PAAAYY CEEE!!"

Nag, nag-nag.
Puts a bad name to thee females.
PFFT.
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Ugh, I can hear the screeching; it's like it has been engraved into my eardrums.
So horrid.. make it stopppp. </3

But honestly.. I really don't know what is so special about the relationship.
It's an average highschool thing, but then she went crazy so it's made out to be like they can do anything.
Who are they, Superman and Wonder Wacko?
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Ah, good to see you'll have a place to vent, Ally.

Just wanted you all to know that this is really a trial thread. Just keep it respectful (you're welcome to still have your reasons), just keep it cool.

Thanks!

And, the approach on the first post is rather clever. Well done!
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