[KyleCapeside]

But why would you bring someone back who is basically a forgotten memory to the current episodes

[Mandy]

Originally Posted by wingster (View Post) wasn't the montage only on the extended version? which actually had andie scenes? and considering her character was closely tied to pacey's in the second season one would wonder why she wasn't there....because more than anything it's ignoring a part of that character's history

I believe you're correct. I think due to the time constraints with the original airing, I can totally understand why they stuck with the "core four". I mean, no one saw Andie in the finale for the TV airing. However, no Jack, either. But then again, Audrey was in two seasons, too, and they never really showed her.

The Finale DVD just surpasses everything!

[Touldengal]

Originally Posted by wingster (View Post) wasn't the montage only on the extended version? which actually had andie scenes? and considering her character was closely tied to pacey's in the second season one would wonder why she wasn't there....because more than anything it's ignoring a part of that character's history

thats exactly how i feel.
i understand the core 4 thing, but some of the extended characters really influenced the 4's lives. Andie is a big part of Pacey and Jack is an even bigger part of Jen. i just don't see how that can be ignored.
oh well, what's done is done.

[Mandy]

Ah, yes. Well, no one said the editors (or the producers) were perfect. Ce la vie.

[Touldengal]

exactly lol.

[milestogo]

Originally Posted by Mandy (View Post) Ah, yes. Well, no one said the editors (or the producers) were perfect. Ce la vie.

True But that doesn't mean we can't complain

[SCOT81]

Anyone know what's going on with the music website? The link hasn't worked for the last few months and I can't find a link on the webpage

[KyleCapeside]

I figured in here we could really pay homage to Heath Ledger. The other day I was thinking about a forum for him, and now he is gone. RIP

[starzscarme]

Originally Posted by KyleCapeside (View Post) I figured in here we could really pay homage to Heath Ledger. The other day I was thinking about a forum for him, and now he is gone. RIP

That whole situation is shocking, really. Even though he had nothing to do with the show itself, I think it is worth mentioning here because of his connection with former Creeker Michelle Williams and little Mathilda. Michelle is one of my favorites and I imagine this is dually tragic for her because not only did she lose someone she cared very much for, even though they did break up recently, but she will also have to raise their daughter alone.

I feel for her, and for Mathilda, and I hope the best for both of them.

[KyleCapeside]

Originally Posted by starzscarme (View Post) That whole situation is shocking, really. Even though he had nothing to do with the show itself, I think it is worth mentioning here because of his connection with former Creeker Michelle Williams and little Mathilda. Michelle is one of my favorites and I imagine this is dually tragic for her because not only did she lose someone she cared very much for, even though they did break up recently, but she will also have to raise their daughter alone. I feel for her, and for Mathilda, and I hope the best for both of them.

I agree, I feel really bad for their daughter who will never really get to know her father all that well. And Michelle I am sure is horribly sad over the loss of Heath

[milestogo]

That's really tragic and my heart goes to Michelle, it must be a tough time for her

[KyleCapeside]

I know here is what Comcast.net had to say

NEW YORK — A makeshift memorial of flowers and candles grew Wednesday outside the apartment building of Heath Ledger, whose Oscar-winning director in "Brokeback Mountain" called his death a "heartbreaking" ending to a superb acting career and life. An autopsy on the 28-year-old actor was inconclusive, the medical examiner's office said Wednesday. It will take about 10 days to complete the investigation, said Ellen Borakove, a spokeswoman for the office. The Australian-born actor was found dead Tuesday by his housekeeper and masseuse — lying naked and face-down at the foot of his bed, police said. Police on Wednesday said they found bottles of prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety medication in his bedroom and in the bathroom; there were still pills in the bottles. Earlier, police said the death was caused by a possible drug overdose and appeared to be accidental. News of the death stunned family, fans and colleagues. "Working with Heath was one of the purest joys of my life," said Ang Lee, who directed Ledger in "Brokeback Mountain." "He brought to the role of Ennis more than any of us could have imagined — a thirst for life, for love and for truth, and a vulnerability that made everyone who knew him love him. His death is heartbreaking." Speaking in Perth, Ledger's father called the death "tragic, untimely and accidental." Kim Ledger called his son "down-to-earth, generous, kind-hearted, life-loving, unselfish" and "extremely inspirational to many." "Heath has touched so many people on so many different levels during his short life," he said. "Please now respect our family's need to grieve and come to terms with our loss privately." Khaled Ali, 41, a stage manager for a Broadway show, dropped off a candle outside Ledger's building on his way to work Wednesday morning. He said he and his fellow cast members were devastated. "I felt a connection with him as an actor, as a fellow in the theater community," he said. "With `Brokeback Mountain' he touched me personally in telling the story of my community. It was very touching." Ledger was known for grueling, intense roles that became his trademark after he got his start in teen movies like "10 Things I Hate About You." He avoided the safe path in favor of roles that forced him to bury his Australian accent and downplay his leading-man looks: the tormented gay cowboy Ennis Del Mar in "Brokeback Mountain," a drug addict in "Candy," an incarnation of Bob Dylan in "I'm Not There." In what may be his final finished performance, he took a rare role in a guaranteed summer blockbuster, playing Batman's nemesis, the Joker, in the upcoming "The Dark Knight." But the role was nothing he could phone in; it forced him to rebrand a character last played on the big screen by Jack Nicholson. "I had such great hope for him," said Mel Gibson, who played Ledger's father in "The Patriot." "He was just taking off and to lose his life at such a young age is a tragic loss." Ledger split last year with Michelle Williams, who played his wife in "Brokeback." The two had a daughter, the now 2-year-old Matilda, and had lived together in Brooklyn's Boerum Hill neighborhood. Early Wednesday, Williams and Matilda left Trollhattan, Sweden, where the 27-year-old actress had been shooting scenes for the upcoming film "Mammoth," said Martin Stromberg, a spokesman for film production company Memfis Film. "She received the news at her hotel late last night," Stromberg said, adding he had not spoken to the actress after she learned of Ledger's death. The actor's personal strife was accompanied by professional anxiety. Ledger said in an interview in November that "Dark Knight" and last year's "I'm Not There," took a heavy toll. He said he "stressed out a little too much" during the Dylan film, and had trouble sleeping while portraying the Joker, whom he called a "psychopathic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy." "Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night," Ledger told The New York Times. "I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going." He said he took two Ambien pills, which only worked for an hour. News of Ledger's death spread quickly, from the crowd of 300 people that gathered Tuesday outside his Manhattan apartment to the Sundance Film Festival in Utah, where those with close ties to the actor included Naomi Watts, who dated him after they met on the set of "Lords of Dogtown," a fictionalized story about the birth of modern skateboarding. Ledger was born in 1979 in the western Australian city of Perth to a mining engineer and a French teacher, and got his first acting role playing Peter Pan at age 10 at a local theater company. He began acting in independent films as a 16-year-old in Sydney and played a cyclist hoping to land a spot on an Olympic team in a 1996 television show, "Seat." After several independent films, Ledger moved to Los Angeles at age 19 and starred opposite Julia Stiles in "10 Things I Hate About You," a reworking of Shakespeare's "The Taming of the Shrew." Offers for other teen flicks came his way, but Ledger turned them down, preferring to remain idle than sign on for projects he didn't like. "It wasn't a hard decision for me," Ledger told The Associated Press in 2001. "It was hard for everyone else around me to understand. Agents were like, `You're crazy,' my parents were like, `Come on, you have to eat.'" He began to gravitate toward more independent films after roles in "Monster's Ball," "The Patriot" and "A Knight's Tale." His work in 2005's "Brokeback Mountain" earned him an Academy Award nomination for best actor. In the 2006 film "Candy," Ledger played a poet wrestling with a heroin addiction along with his girlfriend. Neil Armfield, who directed Ledger in the film, said the actor had "handled his career incredibly well," steering himself toward more challenging roles. "He made a decision about four years ago to stop being led by producers and managers and to forge his own way," Armfield told Australian Broadcasting Corp. radio. He brought the same intensity to "Dark Knight." Glimpsed in early teaser trailers, Ledger is more depraved and dark than comical. The film's director, Christopher Nolan, said this month that Ledger's Joker would be wildly different from Nicholson's. "It was a very great challenge for Heath," Nolan said. "He's extremely original, extremely frightening, tremendously edgy. A very young character, a very anarchic presence that taps into a lot of our basic fears and panic." Ledger was a widely recognized figure in his SoHo neighborhood, where Michelle Vella said she frequently saw him carrying his 2-year-old daughter on his shoulders, or having ice cream with her. "It's a shock; he's so young," said Taren Dolbashian, who also had seen Ledger with his daughter. "He always seems so happy." Near the entrance to the building housing Ledger's loft, about two dozen bouquets and a dozen candles formed a memorial. One note said, "I couldn't find anything bad about you."

[Mandy]

Actually, this is very off topic to the Dawson's Creek Board. We have a thread already created over at the Michelle Williams board dedicated to posting about Heath and his tragic death.

Please pay your respects in that forum. Thank you.

[starzscarme]

Sorry Mandy. I was going to put something about it in cast news but seeing as it was not about Michelle directly, I didn't know if it was appropriate on the DC boards.

But thanks for direction over to the Michelle Williams board.

[KyleCapeside]

whoops sorry i got the wrong impression was thinking OT when i came in here and it is gen discussion. I will try and get it on track.

So I am thinking about a Wilmington road trip to sooth my needs from years back. My uncle lives in Charlotte. SHould be fun if I do decide to do it.