me neither, actually on the show degrassi a couple of those types of girls were popular. but no not really. and also maya and clare from degrassi is like joey, all three of them are getting worse.

this is a really funny comment from imdb:


As I predicted. when the end game was pacey and joey, it was due to all the teen girls glamorizing Josah Jackson and fangirling over badboy pacey so it is only naturally they will root for him to get the girl but now that is has been over a decade and many people are grown up. they are beginning to favour dawson/joey more.

I am not surprised. right now. I am watching all the P/J and D/J moments on youtube and I am seeing a big difference in their dynamic.


pacey and joey do have this epic young love but it is a love that seems and feel has an end or its a love that feels that both characters can share again with someone else in another lifetime wheeras with dawson ans joey there seems to be a sense of them been each others endpoint especially when they were older. there always felt like each others end and infinite and beyond.

I am glad people eyes are now opening.

pacey and joey got togehter because of the hugh fangirl of Josah/pacey but that is over now. we are all adults and I think any person with a good sense would know that dawson and joey would have been better in the long run.

Joey overall should have just ended up with a new guy.

We know that later on Greg Berlanti admitted that Joey should have wound up with Dawson. Which is probably the reason he wrote Ephram and Amy the way he did,,,,,But I wonder if he regrets Pacey kisses Joey and the ensuing destruction of Andie?

well it's their fault for the bad writing for Dawson, and Andie in season 3 then getting rid of Merdith in season 4 and the rest of the series. People can say it was the huge Chem. between Josh and Katie, which why P/J should be together, all they want. That ain't the reason its because of bad writing for other characters and the removal of one that they got the ending they wanted. Seriously, had it not been for the bad writing of Dawson and Andie, P/J never would have been as popular as it was, just saying. Not that I wanted Joey with Dawson either, I just felt Pacey could do much better and deserved much better than Joey.

I am going to rewatch them soon.

Who Pacey and Joey? I didn't mind them, I just never imagine them as an end game couple.

Hmm. What was the messed up writing in season 3?

How did Dawson fall flat? I'm still rewatching and haven't gotten to season 3 yet.



I know it's weird I'm in here. I just like discussion

I enjoy getting insight into other POV. I do respect all points of view .

After season two, Kevin Williamson and all the writers but one quit. They were at a loss as to where to go with the show and they writers floundered around till they actually put a halt to production to figure out what was going on,

The crazy story lines coming out of season three and more or less dropped were
Jen the cheerleader

Eve

Pacey and Jen friends with benefits.

And the total destruction of the Andie character.

There are more, but I can't think of them right now.

When Greg Berlanti came up with the idea let's have Pacey kiss Joey they had a large problem. Pacey and Andie were in a fantastic relationship. so with poor writing and execution they destroyed Andie to make Pacey and Joey viable. The show also dropped 1.4 million viewers per episode season three.

I'm not saying Joey and Pacey never should have happened. But not the way it did. Pacey and Joey were broke up at the end of season four never to be re-united till Kevin Williamson either in a moment of insanity, or under pressure from Paul Stupin and the network changed the ending of the show at the last minute to Pacey and Joey.

The show was never about Pacey and Joey

There is a lot more, but I'm not going to get into it right now.

After season two, Kevin Williamson and all the writers but one quit. They were at a loss as to where to go with the show and they writers floundered around till they actually put a halt to production to figure out what was going on,

The crazy story lines coming out of season three and more or less dropped were
Jen the cheerleader

Eve

Pacey and Jen friends with benefits.

And the total destruction of the Andie character.

There are more, but I can't think of them right now.

When Greg Berlanti came up with the idea let's have Pacey kiss Joey they had a large problem. Pacey and Andie were in a fantastic relationship. so with poor writing and execution they destroyed Andie to make Pacey and Joey viable. The show also dropped 1.4 million viewers per episode season three.

I'm not saying Joey and Pacey never should have happened. But not the way it did. Pacey and Joey were broke up at the end of season four never to be re-united till Kevin Williamson either in a moment of insanity, or under pressure from Paul Stupin and the network changed the ending of the show at the last minute to Pacey and Joey.

The show was never about Pacey and Joey

There is a lot more, but I'm not going to get into it right now.

To be fair, Kevin Williamson painted both Joey and D/J into a corner with that last secene in the season 2 finale, just saying. The scene made D/J a hard sell for season 3, that must have left the writers desperate.

Personally, I think writing Andie to cheat on Pacey while she was in a mental facility getting better after having a serious mental breakdown was unrealistic and unnecessary. They could have had Andie pulled a Joey, and say she needs time away from Pacey to focus on herself. The writers were stupid writing the character the way they did and then writing the character off the show because it was obvious after season 4 PJ were suppose to be no more had they not did what they did with Andie they would had have a female character to put with Pacey in the end.

I think where they made a mistake was that TPTB thought Joey should end up with either Dawspon or Pacey.

In my opinion Joey did enough emotional damage to both guys; she should have went with a third person, Maybe that professor she had a crush on or Eddie, even Charlie Todd, all of which I think were more suited for Joey than Pacey or Dawson.

Pacey should have ended with Andie...never any doubt about that.

Dawson with either a non dying Jen or Gretchen. I say Gretchen because seven years later the age difference between them would have been of no consequence.