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Old 05-16-2006, 12:00 PM
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Citrus and Vine
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Hi xmag!

Yes, Whitaker, a Skin, told Isabel that she had killed Nasedo.

Nasedo and the Skins weren’t allies. The Skins didn’t work for Kivar. The Skins were exiled to Earth and forced to wear husks they hated. The Skins wanted the Granilith, so they could leave Earth.

Nasedo wasn’t a Skin. He hadn’t been exiled to Earth. Nasedo was a shape-shifter, who arrived on Earth after the Skins. The Skins arrived in 1950. Kal and Nasedo arrived around 1958-1959.

Nasedo may have been an ally of Kivar. Or Nasedo may have been working independently. Nasedo wasn’t an ally of the Skins. Nasedo and Kal didn’t work together, either, except to come to Earth together, on a ship that had been one of King Zan’s ships.





xmag, I think your position is that if Kal and Nasedo had committed crimes against King Zan, then they should have been executed, exiled, or imprisoned forever.


I think we both agree that some civilized people consider the death penalty to be an unacceptable punishment for crime. As we have both noted, France and other modern countries forbid the death penalty.

Antar seems to have had a monarchy government, until the Royal Four were murdered.

Antar also had very advanced technology, compared to Earth. Antarians could travel to other planets and to other solar systems. So, I think we are both currently in agreement that any crimes Kal or Nasedo committed on Antar wouldn’t have had to be punished by death. Antarians were able to think of other punishments and controls, in response to crime.



Kal and Nasedo didn’t receive the death penalty for their crimes. Some crimes don’t rise to the level of being punished by death. Or, King Zan and his people may have considered the death penalty to be unacceptable.

Kal and Nasedo were punished by being programmed to have to obey King Zan’s orders, if they ever again directly and personally interfered in his life. They were also programmed to be unable to personally kill him.

Kal and Nasedo may have been exiled to another planet or imprisoned with a life sentence, as well as being programmed. Sometimes, people escape prisons. Sometimes, prisoners are rehabilitated or pardoned. Sometimes, prisoners are released, after having served time. Programming Kal and Nasedo would have been a necessary part to protect the King against possible escape, or to protect the King, until Kal or Nasedo proved to be rehabilitated.

After King Zan was murdered by Kivar, Kivar may have released Kal and Nasedo from their exile or life imprisonment. Or, after Kal’s or Nasedo’s term of imprisonment had been served, and they were then released for their time served.



Max and the others think that Kal and Nasedo were part of the 1947 mission. But Kal and Nasedo weren’t part of the 1947 mission. They weren’t protectors. They were bad people, who had been punished.

We, the audience, know more about Kal and Nasedo than Max and the others know. We know that Kal and Nasedo did many things against Max/King Zan (and the others) than what the main characters know.


Kal and Nasedo weren’t part of the mission that brought the pods to Earth. Kal and Nasedo arrived later, around 1958-1959. They arrived on another ship that once belonged to King Zan. They hid that ship under the convenience store in Utah, so they could use it at their convenience.

After Max found the ship in Utah, Kal got Max arrested. Kal then flew the ship to the military base. He knew exactly where the ship was, even though the General didn’t tell him. Kal managed to keep Max out of the meeting with the General. Kal didn’t want Max to know that he (Kal) knew where the spaceship was, without the General telling him.

Kal was an experienced manipulator. Max was young and inexperienced.





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