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miss3cris · 05-14-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Reggie

Welcome, miss3cris! I see you joined FanForum in May 2006. Are you new to Roswell & FanForum, a returning user, or was your account wiped out somehow? (Just curious. )

I'm not new to either Ros or FF. I had an account that I just don't remember either the screenname or password and was pretty much a lurker before now because Ros FF was an intimidating place back in the day.

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Originally Posted by Reggie

They also exhibit the sort of amoral self-centeredness that one would expect of spoiled children, grown up.

Spoilt children or heirs to an absolute monarchy.

Also, the dupes were not spoilt. They were neglected.

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Originally Posted by Reggie

It seems to me that "Queen Mom" split her bets. On one hand, we have an R4 who are effectively the old aliens in new bodies. If they turned out well, great; they could win back their throne. If they were failures in this life, as before, then there is another R4. These would not remember Antar (at least at first), and be raised by humans, not royalty. This more-human set could have more wisdom and maturity, and thus be better able eventually to recover and rule. Which of these is the "official" R4? I say both, and let the better group succede.

First, I don't think that the human raised R4 was more wise or mature.

Lonnie, as bad as she was, understood very well how to plot and exist in a politically complicated atmosphere. Max did not. In fact, in the end, he and the others proved to be very unconcerned with the important roles they had on their home planet preferring their human lives and that was not a mature or leader-like decision, imo.

Second, I think the fact that Max/Isabel/Michael were raised by humans was a complete accident. Nasedo makes it clear that he lost them. They hatched earlier or Tess hatched late but he had intended to raise all four of them. The reason for this is clear. They got very attached to their human lives to the point that they rejected their status as R4.

I do agree with the idea that the Queen Mother was splitting her bets. There was obviously something wrong with the original R4. They weren't the sweet and lightness that commoners (like Courtney and Whitaker) were told they were. There was a legend told involving grand love, tragic betrayal of loyalty, and all that junk then there was a more complicated truth. So, it makes sense that the Queen Mother, who was trying to preserve her family's power base, would make two sets (one that remembers more or less and one that does not) to see which one would turn out better.

To bring us back to the Seal debate, this would mean that Zan would have to have the Seal.

As for Nasedo vs. Tic-tac, this is a true puzzle. They do genuinely seem to be two different shapeshifters. Also, it seems that Tic-tac knew where the Ros set was while Nasedo did not. What is the reason for this? There seemed to be a hell of a lot going on behind the scenes with the shapeshifters.

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Originally Posted by Reggie

I don't believe for a minute the idea that Mr. H programmed Tess to betray the R4 to K'var.

Pure BS, imo. Whitaker killed Nasedo. She tried to kill Tess and Isabel too. Tess killed all the other Skins except Nicholas who seemed to survive the attack. He had her kidnapped in NYC, an event that she didn't fully remember. It was obvious that the only programming going on was Nicholas programming Tess to betray the R4.

Oh, and I forget who mentioned it, but I do think that due to how the most alien of aliens acted that the Antarians were like the Klingons and were a warrior based society.