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GrhmLz · 04-20-2004, 10:34 PM

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You're forced to hear all our opinion against God's laws, because it's a free-speech country.

[img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] Yes, I know. Which is why you'll have to deal with hearing our views against homosexual marriage. Isn't free-speech a beautiful thing?

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ:
I did not ask for an answer, I asked another poster

I wasn't asking for your permission to give you an answer, so I supplied one anyway!

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ:
Your fundie hatred has done nothing but convince me to never go near the Christian God

So you are angered by the Christian God? Don't understand what the Christian God ever did to you.

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ:
You're being Childish.

Please refrain from bashing the poster, which is I. And do not refer to me as Roswell fangirl or Alien girl again. That is not attacking the post but attacking me.

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ:
...And your use of the roll-eye smilie (which most of us here agreed not to use in debate as it is obnoxious) only proves this.

Hey, I have no qualms about not using the roll-eye smilie! Nobody informed me that this thread had reached that agreement until I heard it from another poster who was told the same thing I am right here.

However, I can't help but wonder why you would have come to the agreement to begin with? I hardly saw anybody that was against gay marriage pop up on this thread until Bugs, mh67511, and I showed up. Why would you have to worry about the "rolleye" smilie if you had nobody to debate before us? Doesn't make much sense to me unless you made it up the minute we showed up. Which makes perfect sense since none of us were informed about it.

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ:
...If you want to give up and go do something else, just say so...

So now this is a contest for you? And here I thought you were posting on this thread because you were in support of gay marriage.

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ:
What I asked for was a passage in the bible where homosexuality is condemned...

Here it is:

I Corinthians 6: 9-11:

[i]"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor the greedy nor drunkdards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God."[/qb][/quote]

And Jesus stated in Matthew 15:19 :

..."For out of the heart came evil thoughts, murder, adultry, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what make a man unclean; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him unclean."

And most importantly about Marriage, Jesus restated in the New Testament in Mark 10: 6-9 :

"But at the beginning of Creation God 'made them male and female.' For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. So they are no longer two but one. Therefore, what God has joined together let man not separate.

And lastly, from God's Ten Commandments regarding children in the structure of family:

Honour your father and mother

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ:
...(And blatantly ignored any biblical proof I put forward)

You haven't provided biblical proof. You have provided alternate biblical translation you believe to be proof along with your own biased opinion. And as you have stated, a belief isn't proof of anything, right?

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ:
...Waffling on about human degrees and translators instead of actually offering proof that the original translations of the bible are correct...

Faith doesn't require proof; however, science does. Jesus was asked to proof he was really the Messiah. He didn't have to proof anything nor did he try to.

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ:
I am offended because you're calling the love between honest good people perverted.

They may be good and honest people but that doesn't change the fact that "homosexual love" is immoral.

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ:
So, you could go out tomorrow and fall in love with a woman? It's all behavioral, right?

Yes, because human beings have free will to choose what our actions and behavior will be it is possible. However, I accept that homosexual acts are immoral so I will not choose to go out and fall in love with another woman. And yes, loving God is a choice because there are people that admit to being atheist. They have made the choice not to believe in the presence of a god.

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ:
Cause it's okay to be offensive and say hurtful things if you hide behind religion, right?

But sometimes the truth just hurts.

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Originally posted by JohannnafromIHJ:
I've been a Mormon and a Protestant, I've gone to school (several in fact). I've read the bible several times, I've read Hebrew mythology and studied it with a Jewish woman fluent in Hebrew, I've read the Quran, I've been to a hell of a lot of lectures and I'm quite intelligent.[

Well, good for you but what is your point here? I've been a Catholic and a Spiritualist. I also have attended many schools. I have two degree and I am working towards a third. I too have read the bible several times and I have attended lectures. I have graduated college with honors and I am a member of six, academic honor societies. I have been placed in the National Dean's list and also consider myself to be quite intelligent.

P.S. The Sources that I was referring to have nothing to do with the materialistic plane of existence. It has nothing to do with measuring how intelligent you are by earthly standards but is referring to spiritual evolvement that allows you to understand these gifts of which I speak. Otherwise, if you weren't ready to understand them you would just mock them.

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Originally posted by JohannafromIHJ:
"Poor girl." That's probably why you ship M/L though right? I doubt you'd be so fervenlty invested in them if you didn't feel something for them.

Yeah, you're right. It's because they were about the only couple on that show that didn't engage in pre-marital sex. Thank god there is was one couple left on television that demonstrates some morality compared to all the lustful filth and hidden porn we have on television now.

But seeing since this is a thread discussing homosexual marriage and not Roswell, my suggestion is to discuss Roswell over at the Roswell boards. That is what it's there for.