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Originally posted by StellaSlight:
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First let me tell you how stupid it is to say that since I live in France I don't know anything about what's going on in the US. I happen to study YOUR civilization, YOUR laws and YOUR history, YOUR democracy so I can even teach you a thing or two about them. Like how the democracy that you're so proud of has been painful, bloody and really hypocrit for centuries, not even being a democracy (with the issues of slavery, the Native Americans, Chinese, Irish, Jews or Japanese, and in ALL cases, the support of your religion). But that would be another topic. On the other side, you don't seem to know alot about your own society either (nor the world'd), so maybe it's time you read some of the stuff the other people say.
Like :
1. You say there's two places you know where marriage between gays is allowed : Europe/Canada. Well, Europe is not a country, so you can divide it in lots of countries, and then next time you can say that you know about a dozen of countries who allow gay marriages.
2. You didn't even read correctly. I said that there were religious people who were against gay marriages in Europe. A lot. You know, the radical religious people who think that it's a sin to be homosexual, and that's why it shouldn't be allowed in the civil law (while being totally aware of the separation between Church/State). Well, then, years after the passing of the law that allowed gay people to marry, the same religious people admitted that this law didn't give Christians' rights away and that this law was harmless.
3. You said that gay marriages will increase population, but then claimed that you know that homosexuals can't have children. I don't need to read your previous post to say that it is contradictory, ignorant and untrue. Homosexuals can't have children therefore they can't increase the population. Period. Even through adoption, they can't increase the number of the poulation since those babies would have been conceived by heterosexuals anyway. Here's your answer.
4. Chaos won't happen just because you're rooting your theory of chaos on views of insane people, fanatic people who would prefer kill homosexuals than see them be granted a civil rights. The huge minority of the people, although wary, are not crazy. You're a very minority and when the time comes for this little 'chaos', I'd have no sympathy at all for those, and I'd gladly see them put either in jail or mental institution.
And geez, you just sound like those fanatic muslim terrorists from Al-Quaeda that preach/predict the war against the people they don't like, because God don't like them. Seriously. Or worse, you just sound like the KKK with their views on Blacks, and the fact that they have to 'protest' against the civil rights that are given to the Black people and create chaos.
5. You don't seem to understand the legal/political system. A government can enforce all the laws that are PASSED. See, you're forced to live in a society with divorce and pre-marital sex. You're forced to live in a country with people from other religion. You're even forced to hear all our opinions against your God's laws, because it's a free-speech country. Why aren't you already off in the streets, creating chaos?
6. YOu said that back in the 60's they didn't have the technology we have now... What do you mean, you mean people from today will throw computers at the government?
What's your point by bringing up technology anyway? Does it have anything to do with homosexual marriages?
7. You're saying : "Homosexuals that commit a act with the same sex is going aganist gods law....thats what i was saying".
AAAh, finally. I haven't understood it after you guys have repeated that argument a billion times. And in the end it's always the same argument and the only one : your belief that God hates homosexuals just as you. The whole 'chaos'/gays-will-increase-the-population crap was just it, crap.</STRONG>
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I did say that since you live in France that you didn't know anything about what's going on in the US. I said that you might not know everything, so don't switch my words aroud please....I'm happy for you that you study the civilization, laws, history, and democracy, but it doesn't mean you can teach me everything, because you don't live over here.
If you say that are democracy has been Painful,bloody and really hypocrit for centuries then what makes you think they won't do this agaisnt Homosexuality.
That's right all those things are a differnts topic so why mention them...Where on the subject of Homosexulity.
1. That's what other people said, but beside the point about how many of your, supposly countries have it, I won't have to mention it because you have done that for me.
2. According to you this was supposly said. Because according to my last finding, i havent't seen that stated anywhere. Did you take a survey on everyone in euroupe to detrmine these results. There is a loop hole missing here. Please explain to me.
3. On the increasing part of the population i was trying to explain that after you have incrased that gay marriage is ok.....all over the world.....it is just another problem added to the world to cause more chaos.
As i said in other post"I know homosexuals can not have babies, i was explaining the sitution, of what will happen if gay marriages are spreading, and increasing the higher risk...or chaos.
4. Thoery is a theory, but choas happens over a peiord of time, when a nation falls, for "dis-obeying god" instead of the United States of America, we can call it The United Sin of America. Altanis aready went down, soon the u.s, and the world will too.
But explian to me, if their is choas, there is not control, no control, means no jail or ever mental insitiution, in this case nobody will be going any where. Its not that god does not like them, Its that they are breaking "Gods Laws". Rights for African American and Rights for gay marriages is two different topics.
5. I do understand the legal/political system. Yes, the gov't can enforce all the laws and pass them, it doesn't mean there right. Thats sinnful enough, so why don't we just add in "gay marriage" rights. Why were add it lets let all the sex predators, so they can do what they do best...I guess were breaking their rights too. It doesn't matter what religion u are in, but the fact that u follow "Gods Laws".
Quote: | Your're forced to hear all our opinion against your god's laws, because it's a free-speech country. Why aren't you already off in the streets, creating chaos? | I'm not forced to do anything, but I am here to debate your opinions against God's laws, not judging you, but simply preaching it. I don't need to start choas, when eventully it will start it self, why don't you?
6. Back in the 60's they don't have the same sources or even the same laws as we do not. But besides the point, Are country has fallen into a deeper hole than when it was back in the 60's.
7. I feel that the agruement we were making is not crap, but simply and arguement you just don't want to here. God's laws are important in my life, I came here to preach the words of the lords, if you don't like my arguement then don't responed.
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