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*Lauren · 04-20-2004, 09:14 AM

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Maybe, but the US seemed to turn a blind eye to Shin Fein fund raisers while people in my very own country were being murdered by a group which the US openly admits to being terrorist.

If they don't know who it is, how can they stop people? Its not something that would be openly advertised.

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It wasn't Afghanistan that took war to America was it? I believe it was a terrorist organisation inside their borders.

Exactly. They were INSIDE their borders, and the Taliban refused to give them up. They went in to get Al Quedea and as a consequence the Taliban fell.

I didn't agree with Afghinstan at the time, but I can admit that they had valid reasons for going there. I was also overjoyed that the Taliban were overthrown.

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Seems that Bush is quite happy to see any country which has terrorists in it as being a good target.

So what does this have to do with the IRA, which has done no terrorist bombings while Bush has been in office?

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Doesn't really matter though that Sadams regime was pretty secular and he didn't approve of extremists.

While I didn't agree with Iraq, I haven't shed any tears over Saddam being overthrown.

And because someone is secular and dosen't approve of extremists, its OK? Never mind the fact that he was killing people every day?

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Sorry, I meant Facist,

You should use the correct words. Some words are not synonims (sp?) and should not be used as such.

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the word Nazi is pretyy much "Nationalist"

[b]NO ITS NOT!{/b] Would you PLEASE stop talking about things you don't know anything about? You clearly have no knowledge on any of this, so either LEARN or stay out of the conversation!

Do you know what Nazi stands for? The German name is the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. This is the German abreviation NSDAP. The English translation is National SOCIALST German Workers Party. (I've highlighted the letters in the German name which is where we've got Nazi from)

That's right, the Nazis were ALSO a socialist party. While they went away from that after 1934, when the Night of the Long Knives happened, and Hitler killed all the members of that wing of the party, including former right hand mand Ernst Rohm.

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Sorry but they do, in the top teer list the likes of the "Real IRA" are faced with the same restrictions as Al Quida.

Then aren't the US placing restrictions on the IRA?

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They stop giving them guns and money and make sure that no-one in the US does, placing such restrictions or sanctions on any accounts or pretty much any financial investments is the way to go.

Full agreement. US citizens giving money to the IRA is awful, and they should have been punished.

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It isn't, it was to highlight that we have a problem with a terrorist organisation and that the US has either turned a blind eye to them or helped them.\

Excuse my ignorance here, but I thought a lot of the problems in Northern Ireland were gone? At least the terrorist bombings and such. There are still the divisions, but people aren't killing each other on the street are they?

The US might have turned a blind eye, I don't know. Its hard to say. But the US government never helped the IRA. US citizens might have, but not the government. There is a difference.

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Oh? Ok, so maybe not ALL of them but there is a fairly high amount,

Name them.

Don't put down all, when you don't know. If you don't know, either find out, or stay OUT of the discussion.

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perhaps the US should stop giving them about a billion dollars in weaponry each year to help ease muslim fears that the US is actually supporting what they do.

I agree with that slightly. I don't think they should give Israel as much help as they do. Israel is doing awful things. However, to leave them to the wind would be awful. Cause I could guarantee that Israel would be marched on by a number of Arab countries, and that would be distarous.

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The current govt in power in Israle is acting worse than most previous, the whole idea of putting up a wall to enclose all Palestinians, stealing their territory and massacring folks is just a tad extreme for my liking, but hey that's just whacky little me.

When has anyone ever disagred with this? When have I ever disagred with this? I'm just questioning your facts, which by your own admission, are wrong.

You'll have no arguments from me on the current Isralie goverment. Sharon is a war criminal as far as I'm concerned (from Lebanon in 1983 at the very least)but governments change. Hopefully this one will soon.

perhaps though it still applies as Mr Bush is such a fanatical "Nationalist".

[ 04-20-2004: Message edited *Lauren ]