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Old 06-24-2014, 10:44 AM
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one thing I wanted to ask was: why do some people think Duncan raped veronica? I was thinking about this....thoughts?
She was under the influence and couldn't give consent to sex. Though someone pointed out once that Duncan was alsp under the influence so he couldn't give consent either. Considering consent does go both ways. They kinda took advantage of each other in a way. I think the problem that most people have with that moment. Neither of them were able to think properly being under alcohol and drugs. And their feelings and nature took over.

One, Duncan just left her there the next morning by herself. Yes, he thought she was his half-sister. But no one likes or should wake up without their underwear without any explanation. He could have save them both a load of pain and issues if he had stayed. I know he was a teenage boy, but I think Veronica would have rather the fear of sleeping with her ex/maybe half-brother than waking up alone thinking she was raped. (Which she was in a way and also by Cassidy)

And two when she showed up at his door step crying and falling apart. His first reaction is to turn in on to her. To make it all about him and how horrible it is that they can't be together. Making Veronica even more emotionally upset. She leaves in tears after Duncan's temper tantrum. This is one of the major reasons I could never root for them in season two.

Though I never liked that how they had Cassidy rape her, which seems thrown in at the end of season two. I don't doubt he did, considering he himself had been sexually abused at the hands of Woody. And that has messed with him so much that sex was so distorted for him. That he couldn't bring himself to perform with Mac who he genuinely cared for. I think Veronica lying there unconscious, made him feel powerful after so long being the victim. And something evil sprang forth and he took advantage of that. He then rapes her with the door open? I have no doubt that he threw up afterwards, that boy was very damaged. And I think all of it, probably made him sick to his stomach.

But the writing is off, from what I remember, it's been a while since I've watch it. So they are telling us that Veronica is put in the empty room to save her from the salt lick. Dick and Cassidy go into the room because Dick thinks it's time that Cassidy loose his virginity and drug Veronica is the way to go. Cassidy then tells Veronica he left her there untouched. Later I think it was Carrie sees Duncan in the room with Veronica having sex. So Dick leaves Cassidy alone with Veronica, Cassidy rapes her and then puts her underwear back on. Considering how damaged and sexually messed up Cassidy was, I'm guessing the sex was very short. He leaves the room, shortly abefore Duncan comes in to check on her and she wakes up to Duncan softly touching her. But didn't wake up to Cassidy raping her? They then start to get heated and Duncan takes off her undies leaving them on the floor. For Veronica to find the next day alone.

It's just badly written in my opinion. Everything with Cassidy is just thrown in at the end of season two. To what make him even more a villain than he already is? Blowing up a bus of innocent people, killing the guy who helped him do it, and then blowing up a plane full of people. Yeah sure, lets just tackle on rapist as well.

And then I don't remember in season three Veronica ever talking about her experiences at all, except for a small moment with Mac and then with Parker. It was just badly handled.

So I have a question about the movie. Something I never thought of until now. I have read several fanfics that consider the time of the movie to be set in the year 2016. Since it's time for their ten year high school reunion and it's been nine years since Logan and Veronica have seen each other. Did RT and crew switch the timeline of Lilly's murder earlier in the beginning so the year of their reunion would be 2014? Or are they just pretending it's been long enough and the year is 2014? Or did the movie take place in 2016? I don't think I could find any dates shown in the movie to show what year it is. Anyone know because now I'm really curious.
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