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| Quote: Never let fear stop you from doing something. If you did happen to fail, the glory of it all is that you can try again. Look at George: he failed his intern exam (by one point - that ticked me off), repeated, retook it and passed, then became a resident - by far, one of THE best residents!
When in doubt, have no fear, just think WWGD?  | I second this, Marie. Never let fear stop you. 
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I always pictured Katie and Josh naming their son after him if they were to have children. Like...Theodore Josh or something. Then they could call him T.J. I'm having a moment of squealing over the adorableness of the McBabies...
| Ah, Lee-- it would be so amazing if Katie named a child after TR... what an awesome thought!
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You make a good point here. I never thought about the name change before, so it could be possible. Maybe his great-grandfather or someone immigrated here and changed their name.
|  Also, the irish background could have come down from his mother's lineage... or his maternal grandmother, etc.
I am mostly English (my father's side), but on my mother's side I have a mix of Scottish, Irish and who knows what else!
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Never considered the hair bit...maybe there is a chance that he has Native American. As far as his nose goes, the dip always reminded me a bit of Patrick's.
| As was discussed further back, some aspects of George remind me of Derek (I think someone said George was a bit like a young Derek) and TR of PD, in some physical traits. I never noticed the coarseness of his hair... although, I must say, I am really enjoying the recent pics of him with his natural color.
b-t-w-- is it just me, or does he seem happier/his expression so relaxed in recent pictures? I bet he feels like a huge weight has been lifted off, with finally having his decision to leave GA made and executed.
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T.R. did say in an interview that his brother and sister had more "normal" names.
Now that you mention the background on their names, it does seem to be more fitting if you look back on the history of the name.
| I meant to comment on this earlier... I loved the background info on St. Theodore that you gave, Gwen... the way St. Theodore's story converges with TR's life and experiences during his time at Greys and the IW controversy and his response to it and the network's refusal to back him/eagerness to turn attention away from the issue at hand... wow. Powerful stuff. It would be interesting to hear how he came to have his name chosen
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Cindy, I'm happy you're back! I've missed seeing your posts around here. Glad you had a fun weekend with the kids. Sorry to hear about the weather keeping you guys cooped in doors - maybe the weather will be better this week?
| Thanks, Lee!
hahaha on the weather, though... still gloomy and raining. The boys are fighting non-stop, pretty much... but my daughter is too cute with her nose constantly in a book. She seems to be enjoying the slow pace of a rainy day (while her brothers run me ragged!
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Aw, your husband's jealousy is funny.
| Well, most of the time...  Today TR was "QMZFT"-- that's a new, excessive one! Made me laugh He'll do anything to not use T & R together when he's referring to him and my obsession! Just wait until I ask him about NY!
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Ditto By the way, I hope you can see him when he goes to New York! If you can, try to sneak a camera in and take photos and videos. I'd go, but I'm underage and stuck in Wisconsin | If I do get to go, have no fear... I will bring a camera and try my best!
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Originally Posted by wanderer78 That's so great. Yeah, maybe someday T.R. will head to Chicago and do Goodman or Steppenwolf. But NYC is probably more doable than LA b/c I don't drive. Thanks for the news. I really like the cast they have there. | Pia-- do you think you'd go see him in NY? I think you should... you had said that you were interested in getting back into acting... he will inspire you! Besides, then I would know I'm not the only fangirl there!! 
Seriously... I don't even know if I would be able to approach him, even if I had the chance... I'd be too nervous!
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Originally Posted by drcookchick I don't mean to butt in, but I just wanted to say to Gwen, Cindy and Marie (and anyone else for that matter) that regardless if you're the one that faced discrimination or a loved one has, or may one day face it, that I really believe that people should stop being so closed minded. I have never experienced discrimination before, but I live in a very prejudice village and I know people that are that way, and it flat out disgusts me. | That was awesome, Lee. I haven't experience anything myself, except in terms of being a multiracial family and most, I guess, is more curiosity, than true discrimination. But I do wonder about my son when he gets older... we live in NH, which is not too culturally diverse.
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Yes, I did notice that. Thinking about how upset T.R. was and how he had been hurt by this just angers me. And then to go on the internet and read comments people have made in the past about him continues to had fuel to the fire - this world can be so sickening with peoples' hate. They sometimes just cannot accept those that are different from them.
| His interview on Ellen really shook me to my core. The stammering was so heartbreaking... it must have took tremendous courage to show his true feelings about that, to open up that vulnerable window. But I also think he knew that he'd be making a powerful statement through his sacrifice/his exposure.
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Originally Posted by ganymede20 First it's nice to see Cindy and Lee back. | Thanks, Gwen!
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Cindy, your husband's jealousy is too funny. You're not alone. My exes were a bit envious too.
| Ah, that's good-- I don't have to feel alone here Most days he communicates it w/ humor... but now and then his patience is low about it and he'll make me feel like the crazy fangirl that I am  !! Safety in numbers...
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Giving a child a loving home by far outweighs cultural/ racial concerns. There are ways to honor his heritage and keep him connected. For example you can adopt customs and food. I'm sure there are Korean festival and events in nearby cities you can attend as a family.
| I agree 100% with that-- I know. He does have some connections too... my husband's oldest brother's wife is So. Korean (she was born here, but both of her parents were born in So. Korea) and their children have mostly Korean features. Interestingly, he is very drawn to them... they are special to him (and also his Godparents, which makes them even more special). We have tried a bit of cooking Korean dishes... a family favorite is bee-bim bop. I do think, though, that what people say will, at times, bother him, but I also know that it's unavoidable.
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Despite my pessimistic nature I refuse to say there's been no progress and I'm confident some of the issues that plagued me will not be his.
| I think you are right here... I think things have gotten better and will continue to do so, especially as the melting pot continues to meld even more... the divisive lines that people hold in their minds are fading. Still, as a parent, I have to prepare him (w/o overemphasizing it, of course) to potentially encounter racism and to know that the things people say about him based on his ethnicity alone are not any fault on his part, but a major fault on theirs. Tying back to TR and the discrimination that he has encountered coming from IW... I do not understand how someone who claims to have been discriminated against based on a facet that he can not control could turn around and do it to someone else? Projection is probably the nastiest of all defense mechanisms. On the surface, it seems to be the least self-destructive, but in IW's case, the self-destruction was a definitive by-product.
To end on a lighter note, Lee... those photos were great! Thank you!
I don't often think he looks like George (that probably sounds nuts, but TR has his own personal expressions and gestures... if that makes any sense) but in #5 & #6 he looks like George, I think. His eyes do look so green... 
And I loved the cast photo at the end... still seems unbelievable to me that he's done w/ GA... in some ways. 
I will miss George tremendously, but I am gleefully happy for our TR.
~ Cindy __________________ ~Cindy~
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