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But you are right I guess they all were manipulative in some way.
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That wasn't really my point though. My point was I don't believe just because someone isn't motivated entirely by selflessness that doesn't automatically makes their actions deliberately manipulative or sinsister in the way that some people seem to mean sometimes. That I think you have to look at the situation as a whole and not just the individual event before you can make that assessment. Otherwise pretty much everything we do unless it can be considered purely unselfish is manipulative.