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| Master Fan
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| Quote: | If you look at the posts on this page I don't think that's necessarily the case. I think some people at least are very clearly not aware and are treating the cover as if it was meant at face value. | Well that is the fear "some" of us have, of course. That people will take it at face value. That people won't realize it's a poor attempt at satire. Hence the outrage.
I also think that if you're gonna look at all the posts on this heretofore very short thread, you'll notice that there's a lot of different opinions, which is to be expected. So, yeah, "some" of us didn't think it was that funny a joke; "some" others are defending the freedom of expression. It'd be a poor setting for debate if we all had the same opinion.
Quote: | I really don't get what you're trying to say. I made it pretty clear that attacking somebody on basis of ageism is something people should be bothered about. I never said anything to indicate that people shouldn't be bothered by somebody being attacked on basis of prejudice. It might be noted that in those covers there was no actual attack on Obama, just a mockery of attacks on Obama. I think it was in bad taste to do a satire like that, but I know it wasn't supposed to be an actual prejudiced attack on him. | Yeah, I'm also having a problem figuring out what you're trying to say. Mostly because I don't see where the ageism stuff comes in.
When I said:
"The one about Obama and his wife, in my opinion, isn't nearly as easy to dismiss. Because the things it claims to mock are insidious and cannot be proven demonstrably erroneous. I'm hoping most people will realize the sheer ridiculousness of it. But considering Obama was asked about why he doesn't wear a flag pin on his lapel, about his thoughts on the flag, about whether he is for or against the pledge of allegiance, etc. All I'm saying is, there are already people out there who think the man has circumspect feelings towards his country. So, you know, seeing the flag burning in his living room would probably not come off as satyre to these people. It'd come off as some sort of fact illustrated through a cartoon."
I meant it.
I just think it's not that funny a cover story.
I also think that we can say there was no intention to criticize Obama but, unless we're in the minds of the people who made the decision to do that art and then run it... we don't really know. I'm not saying it was their intention to criticize him. I'm just saying we can't speak to what their intentions were.
Personally, I think their intention was to sell magazines. __________________  Sunny
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