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Manu9 · 05-13-2008, 11:12 AM

so of course I have to go against what the most of people (everyone?) thinks

I loved that segment of the episode where Lucas flipped out. I enjoyed every single moment of it. It actually got me excited, it gave me some emotion, it made me care for what was happening on the show, instead of just watching hoping it would end fast as it's been happening to me in the latest few episodes.

Lucas I don't care if everyone hates him now. I like to be different, to think different

I loved him. More than ever. yes, he flipped out. yes, he acted childish. yes, he should have never done what he did, since after the call till the end of the episode. but boy did I love him! Lucas has been pretty much emotionless for the entire season. We have had to interpret his feelings, to try to understand what he was feeling looking at his eyes, or a word, or some other little signal so hard to catch that it was getting really stressing. In this episode we got to see him taking out all of his emotions: the anger, the hurt, the sadness, the depression. I really liked it. Everything he did was wrong: fighting during the game, getting drunk, telling Peyton he hates her. But I can understand him. I can feel his pain and I can get where he comes from. So I really can't hate him. I say: this reaction is welcome. he has been rising above everything for years. It was about time he let everything out. This is to me the reaction to everything that has happened to him in his life, that he has always tried to push away, deep down in his heart. But sooner or later it had to come out. Since he was a child he had this dream of having a family. He thought he could have had it with Karen and Keith but Dan took that away from him. He thought he could have had it with Peyton but she "betrayed" his hope and what they had, turning him down because she wanted one more year to be successfull, basically telling him she didn't even want him in her same town. He waited for her for an entire year but she was so selfish that just seeing him with another girl was enough for her to leave the book signing. He moved on, fell in love with another girl, built something with her, hoped to realize that dream of a family. But the dream slipped away from him. Again. Yes, it's his fault if he still has some feelings for Peyton. But his reaction and the I hate you are absolutely realistic in my opinion and just make me feel for him. I'm not gonna hate him. He is in love with lindsey but he was in denial about her leaving him for good. He realized the truth after the call, he saw her slipping away, everything came down on him in this episode so flipping out is exactly what I would have expected. So I loved it. I am sure he'll take full responsability for his mistakes, like he has always done, unlike the other characters of the show. Brooke, Peyton, Nathan, they screwed up several times and never took full responsability for what they did. Brooke sleeped around, Peyton did drugs, Nathan did so many mistakes, all because they were dealing with problems and they couldn't find the solution. Now it's Lucas turn to make his mistake. People forgive the other characters always easily while they are always so hard on Lucas. And that's because Lucas has always risen above everything. Well guys, he's a human being. As he said, suck it up, he can't be perfect. it's easy to love a character when he's perfect. It's when you can see they are flawed that you should love them even more, in my opinion. So, to conclude, I loved to see him flipping out, I finally got to see him break down and I say it was about time, after everything that has been happening to him. To those that say he isn't a good boyfriend and he hurt Brooke, Lindsey and Peyton, I say those 3 girls hurt him too. Brooke and Peyton even treated him like crap in the past and still in those moments Lucas was there for them when they needed him, no matter what.

about the rest of the episode, I really didn't care for anything. Deb/Skills is so lame I don't even want to spend too much time to talk about it. I just want to ask Mark: WTF? Why bringing Debbie back? She's useless and just gross now. Such a waste of Barbara's talent and class and grace

the only other moment apart from lucas flipping out that gave me some emotions was seeing Jamie walking down the street all alone. I felt for him.

All the rest, I really felt like fast forward. Except I loved Mouth didn't use the footage of Lucas grabbing the kid. For once, someone gives Lucas something back

I really can't stand Mia and the whole music stuff bores me to death. Angie and that storyline is just too ridicolous. Do babies really get surgery like that? they get a call in the morning, they are rushed to the hospital and get surgery? It looked ridicolous to me.

my last comment is on Chad's performance, of course. I loved it. When he is given some good material, he always gives excellent performances. I wish Mark could give him more. It's not coincidence that the best stuff in this awful season, in my opinion, are 5.05 and the second part of this episode: Lucas was the focus and Chad was brilliant. In the locker room, after he flipped out in the gym, he had tears in his eyes and it was one of those great moments when Chad can convey Lucas emotion in his eyes and always touches me. And did I mention he really is gorgeous?