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| Supreme Fan
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| Quote: | Thanks for the new thread and I just realized that you've added the 6 episodes we'll have after 5.12. | Yeah, I decided to add placeholders for the other six episodes. If nothing else it gives us an idea of the potential airdate schedule.
Okay, so I don't expect everyone else to stop talking about it, but personally I'm talked to death on the whole Nathan/Carrie issue, so I'm going to say this and then probably not say a whole lot more about it - at least that's the plan. We'll see how long it lasts.
If you're of the opinion that Nathan has known what Carrie was doing since 5.06, and has actively been keeping things from Haley and letting Carrie get away with it, then I do understand having a huge problem with him. I don't really agree, but I do understand it.
Having seen his "epiphany" at the end of 5.07, it's my personal opinion that he really didn't realise Carrie was a problem until that point. Maybe he thought what she was doing was harmless, and would be fine as long as he kept an eye on her. I don't know, there's no real explanation for that other than him being clueless. But whatever the explanation, I don't consider him a bad guy for not taking action when he apparently didn't realise there was a problem. I really can't explain how he didn't know, but to me, that's how it was played in 5.07; Quentin's words, and later Haley's, really woke him up and drilled the message home.
We know that 5.08 follows directly on from 5.07. The very next morning after he has realised what Carrie's trying to do, he makes it very clear that she's not to try anything else. For me, taking action as soon as he realises there's a problem doesn't seem like he's letting her get away with anything.
I also know a lot of us have a huge problem with the fact that Nathan doesn't do anything after Carrie kisses him. But honestly, I thought it was just as weird that he would fly off the handle and still not fire her. We kept coming up with possible reasons for why he wouldn't, such as Carrie giving him a sob story, but none of those reasons really made much sense.
As much as a harsh rejection would have been enjoyable to watch, in many ways I think this almost makes more sense given the situation. After the kiss, the whole thing has to be handled carefully so that he avoids hurting Haley, and gets Carrie out of the way without giving her a chance to cause any more trouble - I know, I know. She causes lots more trouble. Please bear with me.  So in that respect, I can understand why Nathan doesn't immediately do anything, and instead spends some time trying to figure out how to deal with it. After mishandling it so badly up to that point, it doesn't surprise me that he would want to make sure that the next time he takes action, it's decisive and actually gets the job done. Of course, assuming he's planning to tell Haley everything as seems likely, we know he doesn't get the chance to...
So that's why I think Nathan looks clueless, but not like someone who needs "redemption". __________________ Everyone around me is insane; the voices in my head compound the problem |
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