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First: Gilmore
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Mike: What I thought what was really offensive and kinda upsetting and disrespectful and I blogged about this, was the send off that they gave Gilmore Girls. They mentioned it once during the entire presentation, and it was in the context of "We're really sad to see Gilmore Girls go, but you my not know this but Beauty and the Geek did a lot better.
D: YES! YES! I wrote that down in my notes, and i thought that was really weird
*whoa podcast is going crazy*
They are just babbling.
M: slightly weird?
MA: The year before 7th heaven got like, the most incredible real send off. We loved this show, I think they brought the whole cast out and Gilmore Girls "Well, Beauty and the Geek beat it every week."
A: Not only that but little season, at the end of the episode. You know in the past they run sort of longer clips, sort of like looking back at Gilmore Girls and write you thank you for 7 great years or whatever
MA: Yeah
A: It was like 20 seconds maybe. It was just like flashes of them, no quotes at all,
MA: I wonder if that's if they feel like they don't want to catch attention to what they don't have. Like bring more attention to the programming that people really want don't but don't have. You know its like moving forward. I don't know what it was but i thought for the purpose of that presentation to these head execs, there are a lot of GG fans there I'm sure, it would have been a nice send off and i have to tell you, when I mentioned it to Amy Palladino, I saw her at the Fox party last night. I told her and her reaction is *giggles* is pretty priceless.
D: Oh, yeah and will you be sharing that reaction somewhere?
A: In you vodcast?
MA: Somewhere. Among other things Amy divulged to me
D: Well, I mean well,
A: Could it be those mysterious 4 words
MA: Among other things Amy divulged to me.
A and M: OOOOOO
A: Wait for the vodcast Right?
D: Since we're talking about Gilmore, lets get into it. Let's talk a little about the series finale that aired this week. Again, a ton, a ton of
A: What are we going to talk about?
D: letters about it
A: Seriously
D: Uh, UH,
MA: Dan will think of something
D: yes i will, A lot of mixed reactions, one listener said " I'm not thinking about how the GG finale wasn't nearly as satisfying as we had wanted it to be or how the LL reunion wasn't at all i had hoped for, Right now I'm kinda in shock that it is actually over, that its actually done. " this is from Leva. Ana says "I think I could of written a better ending. The SL wasn't so rotten, but the dialog: ACK! If everyone needs a good example why the CW should back the brick? truck up to Amy's house last year this was it. No spark. No flare. The lamest excuse not to get back together with Luke in the beginning, gone by the end." Um, Craig says Craig Best, who was one of our biggest Gilmore fan, says " I know this is a little too late, but I loved the GG finale. It was way better than I expected. The only complaint I have is with LL literally coming back together in the last 5 minutes. It was nice, but would it of killed DR to have them talk or maybe even danced at the party or just hold hands walking back to the party? " What did you guys think of the show as a show?
MA: Did not like it.
D: REALLY?!
MA: I was really disappointed. I felt that Brenda Hampton from 7th Heaven came in and wrote a GG series finale.
D: Intresting
MA: No offense to Brenda Hampton but it felt ____ to me, It felt forced, over the top. Um, and it's. It did not feel like GG to me. I felt like ever scene was like a goodbye to a character.
A: It really was, it was a lot of "there's just not enough time." like they kept saying it.
MA: But the clincher for me was when Rory and Lorelai pulled up in that car, in the rain and got out, everyone was just clapping. And it just was, to me, was just like "Gag me now." Amy would have never had let something like that happen.
D: So your saying that it was .... I mean it did feel like a series finale though. right?
MA: It felt like a series finale of 7th Heaven
D: Right
MA: It did not feel like the series finale of GG. I was like, i don't know what show this is, but it's not my show i feel in love with. I will say, the final shot was beautiful. I loved how they did that. I can't think of anything more appropriate. I can only imagine that that was something Amy was thinking about.
D: Right that was a great ending. It has to end where it started. They show is about the Gilmore Girls, not about L/L, so it has to be
MA: Although he was in the final shot. Just doing his thing. It was really, was a beautiful scene, it did not make up for the rest of the episode.
A: No, and thing i kept noticing i think was in your interview with LG, how she said, that there wasn't, the dialoge, she used to get pages and pages of dialoge that she had to read for episodes. And over the last season that had like shrunk, being because of the new writers and i really noticed that there were like a lot of gaps and there wasn't the quick fast talking that you know, you usually get from GG
MA: Yeah, It didn't have any of that and i felt like there wasn't one line in the whole episode that Amy laughed.
D: And Uh, a listener named Dora pointed out that "I have hammered home many times, even though the townies have a strange allegiance to lorelai and Rory, it seems forced that they would assume that they would be able to attend her Yale Grad. Yes SH is a different world, but surely they would realize that there would be no seating. They are quirky but come on that is just being stupid. Why does everyone has to act like they have been planning for years to attend her college graduation, when they hardly saw her for the last few years, and they didnt even go to her H.S Grad, back when they saw her everyday. It didn't make sense."
A: Good Point
MA: Yeah
D: And another listener Keith , Brings out a really good point. "Must series finales tie up every loose end? I can understand fans are emotionally attached to and invested in a show. I've been with Gilmore since S1 he says but at the same time, nothing is ever perfect. I thought the show really did a nice job with respecting the viewers direction remains. Rory's future, LL, L/E but do they have to be married, do we have to see them married.
MA: Oh I agree. And that was Lauren's point you know, he worst fear was having the final episode be a LL wedding. And I agree. I don't think we have to have an ! at ever singel end of a SL or a period.
A: Yeah and i liked the idea of where everybody ended up at the end of the episode. Like Rory going out on her own
MA: Me too
A: And that i don't think it was executed as well. That's like how you liked the script on paper, it worked better, and i think that makes sense.
MA: Also, i read the script before LG's changes, so i don't know how much that played into it. I know when i interviewed her she said the changes she requested was to make it more serious and to give all these character's fitting goodbyes. So it sounds to me that that may have contributed to the
A; I have to go see Lane. I have to go do this
MA: yeah, that scene with Lane, for another show that would have been nice, but that to me didn't feel, ring true for me.
D: And now uh, going back to upfront now... Bashing the C-dumb. And talking about how WB was much better and CW has ruined |