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| Quote: | Well doesn´t craving for drama and falling rates don´t go hand in hand? Sure we always say we want them to see happy, having a family - the whole package - together. But I´ll assure you that the rates would go down. Sure you would watch or LL fans would watch but the rest would just switch to some good old drama. | You missed the point, which is the early seasons didn't show such TV-typical melodramatics. On the whole, characters stayed in character and storylines progressed naturally. That accounted for much of the appeal - and the audience grew.
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"Easy breezy" scenes? Given the fact that they are in a relationship and now even married may include some of this easy breezy-ness. But just take a closer look at some of Lorelais comments to Sookie or to Rory and read the subcontext of some comments she made to Chris. I don´t want to list them one by one since it would be to long. But there are some happy scenes as they are happy. Because Lorelai wants to be happy now. Not thinking about the past. And that she´s a good actor was proven in S6. I am not saying she pretends to be happy but that she is bottling up all the pain and pretends that none of it happened.
| Did we need the caps? I thought we were friends in here.
"Easy-breezy" was a direct quote from Ausiello, reflecting the view in many quarters about DS/LG "chemistry".
My point was that Lorelai is constantly clinging to Christopher. Whether or not she seems happy, and how much the "Stepford" aspect is intentional, is besides the point. I'm hearing just too many comments that the independent, feisty, flawed, wise-cracking character whom viewers fell in love with is gone. And that's mostly from kids much younger than myself - as cnn-money's article over on the MT points out, "the CW skews to a younger audience that is very quick to move to and away from programs."
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Well I guess critics can be wrong - I heard it happened.
But other than that: authentic characters change and don´t stay the same. Some call it bad dialogue and some call it developement of character.
| This is more like character assassination than character development.
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I understand when some fans fast forward the LC scenes. Or they just don´t look an episode because it´s to painful - but you still have to be objective up to a certain point and not apply to double standard just because you don´t like a certain turn of events.
| Again, you're missing my point, which was that most viewers are more casual than us. They don't question why, they don't bother to fast-forward, basically, they don't stick around. They don't worry about of "loyalty" or long-term pay-offs, if they don't like something any more, they're out.
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But going down to this level - because ASP/DR wrote them to act like this - makes the whole discussion thread pretty pointless - don´t you think?
Instead you could ask why did they wrote it like this? Why did he have them act like this? What was the intention behind it?
| Exactly. The last few years make a lot more sense if you look at the writers' intention rather than authentic character development.
In less than a year, they produced: - Grant Felony Yacht Theft
- Long-Lost Daughter
- Millionaire inheritance.
The only reason for such soapy melodramatics is the writers lost faith in, lost sight of, the characters themselves.
This year we've had a romantic Paris elopement with obligatory cardboard Eiffel Tower backdrop, coming fistfight between 2 men in a romantic triangle, courtroom drama ....look, we took another hit yesterday, I really didn't want to be more depressing.
BTW, I'd bet my bottom dollar that right now, LL are still the endgame.
Also that CL is more likely than not to end in 7.13.
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Last edited by caf123 : 12-02-2006 at 02:56 PM.
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