Fan Forum - View Single Post - LoVe (Logan/Veroncia) #94 - He's there for her even when she doesn't love him enough.

neko_chan · 11-22-2006, 05:38 AM

Just watched the episode and to be fair, I was sympathizing a bit with Veronica during the first argument in her apartment. Logan had his heart in the right place and he was worried sick so I get that he probably wasn't thinking clearly past keeping Veronica safe but the way he ordered her to stay away from the rape case, demanded it of her? I can't blame Veronica for getting pissed because I wouldn't have stood for my boyfriend telling me what to do either. Logan should have put a little more thought into his approach.

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Originally Posted by Whordy (View Post)

But he knows she was dosed with GHB, which I'm sure he knows is what was used to drug and rape the girls at Hearst. And surely she must have explained the siuation? I mean it's not like she was at a party where she accidently picked up a drink that was meant for someone else, if she told him she was in the cafeteria then it's quite obvious that the drugs were specifically meant for her - and whether she was shaved or not doesn't change the fact that someone deliberately drugged her. Meh, I don't know. It's just that Keith is usually the most concerned dad on the planet but there was just.. nothing.

I agree. The way Keith acted in this episode kinda irked me. Unlike Logan, he did not show any signs of terror or concern or worry that his daughter was drugged in her school cafeteria and then found lying alone and helpless in a parking garage by her boyfriend who just happens to have impeccable timing. I know Veronica is keeping him out of the loop of her shaved head and rapist hunt but come on, are we expected to believe that Keith is stupid? Or that he doesn't know his daughter at all? She's going to a college where there are serial rapes going on, does Keith really think Veronica isn't looking into it...even just a smidge? Even if he doesn't know about Parker or any of Veronica's ties to rape, he has to know that he didn't raise a daughter who would keep her eyes closed to this kind of a crime. Especially not the daughter he's been living with for the past 2+ years. I know a lot of people have been disappointed with Keith this season and now I'm really feeling it too.

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And another point on the ILY.. honestly, Veronica isn't the kind of person to lie about that. If she really didn't feel it, she wouldn't say it.
She couldn't say it when Duncan left. Not even a "me too". If there was one time in the world that you should say ILY if you mean it, it's when your boyfriend is running away to Australia and you're never going to see him again

but she didn't. So if she really didn't love Logan, she wouldn't have said she did.

Again, I agree completely. Veronica wouldn't say it just to placate him and end the argument. And it's at this moment when her eyes really tear up.

After reading the comments here and at the LoVe Shack, I thought that this would be yet another episode where I can't stand Veronica but, surprisingly, I didn't really have a problem with her. I liked how after last week, she was just trying to be her normal self with everyone: her dad, Wallace, Dick, etc. But in her moments alone you can see that she is terrified and on edge. And the only time this part of her came out, other than when she's alone, was with Logan. It's only with him that she's allowed herself to be vulnerable, and angry (even if the anger was directed at him) because only he knows what really happened.

I, personally, don't think she was lying when she said things were okay between them. I think she really did want for things to be okay. I just don't think she could handle being around him at the moment, which was why she ignored the phone call. Only Logan knows what happened, only Logan is as scared for her as she is. Veronica can't pretend that everything is fine and dandy when she's with Logan like she can with everyone else and I don't think she feels like she can solve the case if she's carrying the burden of fear around with her everywhere she goes. She has to be able to compartmentalize it so that she can look at things rationally, and Logan, being as worried for her as he is, makes it hard for her to do that.

That being said, I do see Logan's side in all this and I completely felt for him at the end. I can see at the end how he probably thinks she's been lying to him about everything. Lying about being busy, lying about things being okay, and most of all lying about how she loved him. From his standpoint, Veronica doesn't want to put the effort into their relationship, she doesn't trust him, she probably doesn't even love him. At least not like he loves her. Oh boy were there wires crossed this episode.

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Obviously they have to fight a bit over this as Logan would be likely to overreact, but would it have been so hard for Veronica to concede just a little bit and call him more often to let him know where she is and that she's alright? Letting him know that she'll have a friend with her?

I really think they could have and should have worked out a compromise like this. I think that Veronica leaving voicemail messages and maybe the occasional text message for Logan would have done wonders to ease his mind about her safety and he wouldn't have gone to the extreme of hiring a bodyguard for her. Of course, coming up with a compromise would have required talking, which Veronica was avoiding at the beginning of the episode.

And by the way, I agree about that too. I don't know how the writers can have her have a VO realization last week that she didn't love Logan enough and then start the beginning of this episode with her avoiding his calls. Emotional continuity doesn't really make sense there.