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I've always thought the same thing. I'm sure it mostly has to do with the writers wanting an easy way for the viewers to differentiate between the two.
That is a great point, IA.


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Me too. I wish we'd gotten more of human Liam.
I'm reminded of the novel 'Soul Trade' in which a child unconscious in the hospital after having her soul removed (by her knee-deep in debt father no less) reminds Angel of Kathy.

There's a flashback in which Liam is tucking her into bed and she asks him what a soul looks like. He tells her a soul shines with colors and while at the time he was speculating, he finds out he was spot on when he gets his first glimpse at this child's stolen soul in a vial. I think he also tells her that her soul would be the prettiest, it's really sweet.

Basically, demons are using human souls to create a supernatural heroin or something. It's been a while and I actually need to finish it.

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I kind of assumed since he was a champion over there (though also reviled for being a 'cow') that his feats in combat would've caught the eye of a few demon women willing to ~warm his furs. We know from that demon brothel that human/demon can and does happen.
Right, but I was going off of how Groo actually told Cordy that he was only compatible with cows(humans) though considering how he was manipulated into attacking Angel I could see him being told that as a **** blocking lie.

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I'd need to pay more attention to him in his scenes with Cordy at the end of S2, but he seemed pretty confident/comfortable about the comshucking that he expected to take place.
That's true, but again his expected performance of that role was manipulated at least in some part.

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Honestly, I hope for Cordy's sake she did have sex before Wilson bc *shudder* I can't even imagine how traumatic that whole thing would've been for her, let alone if it was her first time.
As do I, and that it was a decent experience with someone who cared about her though I have to doubt that based on her high school reputation and her confession to Buffy that no one, not even the Cordettes saw her as a person vs a social status and a fat wallet.

This is no doubt how authors who write her losing her virginity to an ******* jock in high school formed such logic and validly so.

Unfortunately, I'm quite convinced that Wilson or not, her first time wasn't special or possibly even pleasant. It's truly tragic that in canon she didn't get to have much of the sex life she deserved. So yay for fanfics and sex god Angel!

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Joss writing for Cordelia:

Holy crap! Hardcore unintentional foreshadowing!
He really did have some kind of obsession with making Cordy a demon spawn vessel.


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CC gave a really interesting interview talking a bit about Cordy's high school dating life on the Buffering--at least I think it was buffering--podcast. She talked about how at the time she was still very sheltered with a religious upbringing and had trouble with some of Cordy's 'making out with boys in closets' scenes. And how it made her question some of her own judgey, internalized thoughts and become more open minded and comfortable with her sexuality.
That makes sense. I read that she struggled with the porn in WITW as well and that DB helped her feel comfortable.

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He might've been given a business card? (I'm reaching lol.) He could've known the name of their agency from conversation? I could've sworn he did step foot in AI, but that's probably fic bleeding into reality again.
That happens to me a lot as well and you know my memory can always fail me.

Now I think we need to make 'Belonging' our next watch party ep.
In fact, I wouldn't mind doing the entire Pylea arc one ep at a time. There are a few ways in which I'd have preferred it to go differently but I did like it nonetheless.

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I love Buffy Summers to death but I can't not like Cordy, even in that scene. And like you said, even though she was being a bit of a bully, her confidence is still #aspirational.

The second time she claimed she was a slayer that same confidence/boldness also saved her and Buffy's life in The Prom.
I don't remember the instance in 'The Prom' but there was also her somewhat 'Eternity' parallel moment in 'Homecoming'.
With Buffy and Giles knocked unconscious she had to face Gortch alone armed with nothing but a spatula and her sharp tongue and she totally made him wet his pants! She saved Buffy's life then as well and Giles'.

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